yes, i have tried searching and yes, I have seen those two threads. They still give me zero concept as to look and feel of the 3rd row and cargo with seats folder or upright. All pictures of 2nd row are from outside. And I don't see anything useful for 3rd row or rear cargo. To spell it out, I would like to see a picture from the rear, looking at the cargo space with all seats up, with seats down, with seats moved, 6 vs 7, etc... I am getting the sense these dimensions and pics do not exist yet.