I saw this petition and thought it was an interesting idea. Create Fast Charging Network for Wide Scale Adoption of Electric Vehicles | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government
Whitehouse Petition for DC fast chargers
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brianman
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After tasting superchargers, fast charging is like the remaining bar folk after last call.
No. No. No. No.
80 mile BEVs are not road trip vehicles with current battery technology. They simply can't be charged fast enough to allow this to scale. Hell, even Supercharging isn't fast enough yet to scale, which is why Tesla's still working on it and has swapping as a fallback plan.
Fast chargers should be considered an emergency top-up system and are better placed in cities.
80 mile BEVs are not road trip vehicles with current battery technology. They simply can't be charged fast enough to allow this to scale. Hell, even Supercharging isn't fast enough yet to scale, which is why Tesla's still working on it and has swapping as a fallback plan.
Fast chargers should be considered an emergency top-up system and are better placed in cities.
There should be a petition to revisit the gas guzzler tax and raise the mileage so that it is more closely aligned to today's standards and technology.
After all, its has been about 25 years since it was established.
After all, its has been about 25 years since it was established.
brianman
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I'm pretty sure I don't with this in the Model S/X era. In the Gen3 era, I might agree.
White House petition for a national charging network
There is a petition on the White House petition page asking for a national electric vehicle charging network to be created. Take a look at it and if you agree, sign it and spread it around. What the petition calls for might not be perfect but it get a conversation going. As I've listed below it's been picked up by the Chicago Tribune and the Green Autoblog.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ide-scale-adoption-electric-vehicles/zf0nNH7b
It is starting to get some national attention:
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/08/0...-asks-for-high-speed-chargers-every-50-miles/
http://cars.chicagotribune.com/fuel...ugin-car-fastcharging-infrastructure-20130805
There is a petition on the White House petition page asking for a national electric vehicle charging network to be created. Take a look at it and if you agree, sign it and spread it around. What the petition calls for might not be perfect but it get a conversation going. As I've listed below it's been picked up by the Chicago Tribune and the Green Autoblog.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ide-scale-adoption-electric-vehicles/zf0nNH7b
It is starting to get some national attention:
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/08/0...-asks-for-high-speed-chargers-every-50-miles/
http://cars.chicagotribune.com/fuel...ugin-car-fastcharging-infrastructure-20130805
brucedp
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Please sign the petition for a national charging infrastructure
I support this petition and have signed it. This petition is an easy way to show our Government that better planning and coordination is needed as to what type of EVSE and where EVSE is located (Fed Gov funding not just thrown around anywhere, but a plan for contiguous public EVSE so all drivers can get a charge and reach their destination).
Please see my post on this topic on the evdl.org (the mother of all EV discussions)
Electric Vehicle Discussion List - EVLN: Drivers petition for national L3 quick-charging infrastructure
I envision that a public EVSE station would have L3 and L2 EVSE. This would provide for all plugins, from Tesla's to pih/phevs, and yes, even those conversion EVs that have upgraded to charge off J1772.
On this thread it had been mentioned that non-long-range/non-Tesla EVs should not be used for long distance traveling. But I put it to you, that there are other reasons to have this EVSE network other than that one notion.
Those that buy or lease a short range EV (i.e. iMiev r:60mi w/ CHAdeMO capability), the majority of their charging is likely going to be at home, and or at work. But the occasional jaunt may see the need to use a public EVSE station. But a driver might miscalculate, and that well established public EVSE station is the one place a tow truck driver knows to take the plugin. Or with the severe lack of Combo L3 infrastructure, Combo capable EVs can always get a charge where there are J1772.
It is well known throughout the plugin (both EVs and plugin-hybrid) community that Tesla does things their own way. I am thinking that these public L3 & 2 EVSE stations would also invite Tesla to install their EVSE as well. Tesla would decide if it would install a supercharger or standard Tesla EVSE, and if it worked for their purposes.
The petition gives the opportunity for citizens to show their desire for a well laid-out network of public EVSE.
So, please sign the petition and give your support
Create Fast Charging Network for Wide Scale Adoption of Electric Vehicles | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government
Thanks for reading,
Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter
brucedp.150m.com
(Near Silicon Valley, south of SF, CA USA)
I support this petition and have signed it. This petition is an easy way to show our Government that better planning and coordination is needed as to what type of EVSE and where EVSE is located (Fed Gov funding not just thrown around anywhere, but a plan for contiguous public EVSE so all drivers can get a charge and reach their destination).
Please see my post on this topic on the evdl.org (the mother of all EV discussions)
Electric Vehicle Discussion List - EVLN: Drivers petition for national L3 quick-charging infrastructure
I envision that a public EVSE station would have L3 and L2 EVSE. This would provide for all plugins, from Tesla's to pih/phevs, and yes, even those conversion EVs that have upgraded to charge off J1772.
On this thread it had been mentioned that non-long-range/non-Tesla EVs should not be used for long distance traveling. But I put it to you, that there are other reasons to have this EVSE network other than that one notion.
Those that buy or lease a short range EV (i.e. iMiev r:60mi w/ CHAdeMO capability), the majority of their charging is likely going to be at home, and or at work. But the occasional jaunt may see the need to use a public EVSE station. But a driver might miscalculate, and that well established public EVSE station is the one place a tow truck driver knows to take the plugin. Or with the severe lack of Combo L3 infrastructure, Combo capable EVs can always get a charge where there are J1772.
It is well known throughout the plugin (both EVs and plugin-hybrid) community that Tesla does things their own way. I am thinking that these public L3 & 2 EVSE stations would also invite Tesla to install their EVSE as well. Tesla would decide if it would install a supercharger or standard Tesla EVSE, and if it worked for their purposes.
The petition gives the opportunity for citizens to show their desire for a well laid-out network of public EVSE.
So, please sign the petition and give your support
Create Fast Charging Network for Wide Scale Adoption of Electric Vehicles | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government
Thanks for reading,
Bruce {EVangel} Parmenter
brucedp.150m.com
(Near Silicon Valley, south of SF, CA USA)
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Hmmm, isn't this kind of what Ecotality (Ecocatastrophe?) bid on and failed to deliver? I'm of the mind that big projects like this are going to fail. Better to have the grass roots efforts or strictly commercial ones (like tesla). I have little faith in a government run initiative.
