ucmndd
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In several years on this forum I can say with certainty that being a “real owner” doesn’t correlate with any sort of strong knowledge on how these cars actually work.
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Who wants in on a class action lawsuit? ;-)
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In several years on this forum I can say with certainty that being a “real owner” doesn’t correlate with any sort of strong knowledge on how these cars actually work.
P85D is rated at 300 wh/mile. 85 is rated at 280 wh/mile.
That certainly fits closer to what the usable reported by the bms / the rated miles which is not exactly what Tesla shows on the rated line.
Since you admit not having “any sort of strong knowledge” and all those who Doubt the 300 Wh/mi is the RATED factor please see the attached...
ucmndd
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I'm sorry. You're still mistaken. I'm not sure what other evidence to provide. Your assumptions are based on a foundation of misinformation. I've said all that there is to say.
But, by all means... lawyer up! Good luck with that. I'm sure you'll find an attorney willing to take your money.
Yes Tesla is guilty of a “Foundation of Misinformation”
Now can we return to the OP and Itentify who wants to join the Class Action? We already have several Classic 60 owners who have privately responded. Who els is out there?
Money Back or Free 100kWh Upgrade!
More misinformation. There is no class action to join, at least that I have seen. You can file suit and try to get it certified as a class action, but I don't see you having any luck as a Model S 60 owner. (85 and 90 owners would have a pretty darn good chance. That is unless Tesla says that when they say xx kWh they just mean it is a xx kWh "class" battery, like is done with flat screen TVs.)
ACA Man
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The OP told me that at “100% with a lot less than 208 miles showing.”
I believe none of the 1st gen 60s ever showed 208 @100% SOC because none ever had a true 60 Capacity
Did you use a calculator for that math it your dash picture? Sure looks like you didn't. You claim:
80 x 300 = 24,000 left over
24,000 / 441 = 53 Mi projected (My calculator gives 54.42)
Now, look at the numbers with the 295 Wh/mi that people have been suggesting:
80 x 295 = 23,600 left over
23,600 / 441 = 53.51 Mi projected
Using the numbers from your very own car shows that 300 is wrong. Time to start listening to others?
80 x 300 = 24,000 left over
24,000 / 441 = 53 Mi projected (My calculator gives 54.42)
Now, look at the numbers with the 295 Wh/mi that people have been suggesting:
80 x 295 = 23,600 left over
23,600 / 441 = 53.51 Mi projected
Using the numbers from your very own car shows that 300 is wrong. Time to start listening to others?
Lasttoy
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When i got mine i called tesla for charging intructions, set up 2 charging patterns
1, home, about 75%
2. Going on long trip charge up to max right before i leave house to shorten stops.
3, going to zero is fine, just dont do it everyday.
I've been in over 25 states, many super chagers and others. So far im happy.
They sent me the leave it plugged in every night.
1, home, about 75%
2. Going on long trip charge up to max right before i leave house to shorten stops.
3, going to zero is fine, just dont do it everyday.
I've been in over 25 states, many super chagers and others. So far im happy.
They sent me the leave it plugged in every night.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Lots of range anxiety here! Y'all live in AK or ND? Drove LA to Chicago and back, never more than 142 miles between charges... And they are adding chargers all the time..if you have FUSD, what is the problem?
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
The Monroney says it, I believe it, that settles it! In Elon I Trust...
I see your point.
We are talking though about 1mile off which could also be a rounding error between Wh an kWh.
Could someone show where it is written RATED = 295?
Why is 300 Displayed on the RATED line In the Tesla Trip Meter?
And are you also saying that the 60 before any degradation is really a 61.360????
(295 x 208mi Advertised = 61,360)
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It isn't. There are two lines, the 300 line is just the normal graph line, the rated lines is just a couple pixels below it.
The Montgomery on the 60 also says 35kWh / 100 miles and that a full charge goes 208. At this rate doesn’t that mean you need a capacity of 72.8?
Or is it self contradictory in that 60x100/35 = only capable of 171mi?
No. The figure on the Monroney is a "Wall to Wheels" figure so it includes charging losses. (Which is why it is ~19% higher than the 29.5kWh/100 miles that the car uses for range based on what is in the battery.)
Good to know.
Would you care to comment about a total consumption of only 31.5kWh from 90% to 17%SOC...?
-How much total usable “kWh’s” would this battery have and be the expected mileage range if AVG 295Wh/mi?
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