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Whos got staggered 21's in the Bay Area
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Blu Zap
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what are the real differences in the staggered and non staggered wheels? more concave in the rear or is it spaced out more?
could one buy the non staggered and add spacers to fill the wheel well?
could one buy the non staggered and add spacers to fill the wheel well?
Blu Zap
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Not sure which Tesla you are considering. The staggered set-up came out with the P85+ RWD. It put more beef on the ground for the performance motor AND the performance + suspension. Significant performance improvement with RWD. They continued with staggered with the early P85Ds. They are also available on some PxxDs now. 245s on the front and 265s on the rear is the main aspect for staggered. So tire width difference is the only real factor you are dealing with.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
I would challenge the "significant performance improvement with RWD" comment.
Here's a little rant I posted on the entire staggered controversy: Staggered Tires for Non-Performance?
It's also worth reviewing the entire thread: Staggered Tires for Non-Performance?
Here's a little rant I posted on the entire staggered controversy: Staggered Tires for Non-Performance?
It's also worth reviewing the entire thread: Staggered Tires for Non-Performance?
Blu Zap
Grinning member
"I would challenge the "significant performance improvement with RWD" comment."
@HankLloydRight . Checked out your links. A lot of experience with different set-ups and brands. I've had BMWs and still drive them.. Great vehicles. I would be interested in you opinion of PS alternatives that perform better and cost less.
Here in NorCal I'll drive the windy roads out to the coast or up to the wine country. So appreciate a good handling car to enjoy.
Perhaps I mislead in my comment. The significant performance improvement with the + suspension and staggered set-up over the non-+ option is significant. You have the same experience with a +. You may not agree, but that is my point.
Enjoy!
@HankLloydRight . Checked out your links. A lot of experience with different set-ups and brands. I've had BMWs and still drive them.. Great vehicles. I would be interested in you opinion of PS alternatives that perform better and cost less.
Here in NorCal I'll drive the windy roads out to the coast or up to the wine country. So appreciate a good handling car to enjoy.
Perhaps I mislead in my comment. The significant performance improvement with the + suspension and staggered set-up over the non-+ option is significant. You have the same experience with a +. You may not agree, but that is my point.
Enjoy!
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Oh yes, I totally agree... If I were to break down how much each factor contributes to phenomenally better handling it would go something like this:
Performance Plus Suspension: 75%
Ultra-High Performance tires: 20%
Proper tire inflation: 4.99%
20mm Staggered Rear Wheels/tires: .01%
As I've posted in many other threads, I'm a big fan of the Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2 summer performance tires. About $200 each. Note: not available in the staggered 265mm size.
Performance Plus Suspension: 75%
Ultra-High Performance tires: 20%
Proper tire inflation: 4.99%
20mm Staggered Rear Wheels/tires: .01%
As I've posted in many other threads, I'm a big fan of the Hankook Ventus V12 evo 2 summer performance tires. About $200 each. Note: not available in the staggered 265mm size.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Just a side note... I sold my P85+ earlier this year and replaced it with the only feasible option available.. A P85D with the Performance Plus suspension. I'll probably keep this car until Tesla re-introduces the + suspension, or allows me to upgrade the battery to 100 kWh or more.
So that's a long time.
So that's a long time.
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