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Why are there heated seat icons on a hot day?

Oct 3, 2011
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Portland, OR
Seems absurd that the quick access icons on the main display, which there are only so many of, are wasted by heated seat icons on a hot day or by the passenger temperature adjustment when no one is sitting in the passenger seat.

Those quick access icons could be intelligently, contextually aware. If the outside temperature is above some threshold (e.g. 72F) then move the heated seat icons to the HVAC control menu and instead replace their quick access icons with fan speed, a/c on/off, etc. Or maybe even other useful actions you want quick access to that have nothing to do with hvac. Same goes for an unoccupied passenger seat. Don’t show the heated seat icon and temp adjustment for the passenger side if unoccupied, regardless of outside temp.
 

ewoodrick

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Apr 13, 2018
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Seems absurd that the quick access icons on the main display, which there are only so many of, are wasted by heated seat icons on a hot day or by the passenger temperature adjustment when no one is sitting in the passenger seat.

Those quick access icons could be intelligently, contextually aware. If the outside temperature is above some threshold (e.g. 72F) then move the heated seat icons to the HVAC control menu and instead replace their quick access icons with fan speed, a/c on/off, etc. Or maybe even other useful actions you want quick access to that have nothing to do with hvac. Same goes for an unoccupied passenger seat. Don’t show the heated seat icon and temp adjustment for the passenger side if unoccupied, regardless of outside temp.

My wife often uses seat warmers to relieve back pain.
I thought my phone was about to explode, but then realized she left the heater on yesterday.
 

thecloud

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In a car, I do not want the location of controls changing either "intelligently" or "contextually". Muscle memory tells me exactly where a control should be. If I reach for that location and the control is gone or now does something else because the temperature hit some threshold, then I have to focus attention away from the road and onto the screen to figure out the current UI context.
 
Oct 3, 2011
767
65
Portland, OR
In a car, I do not want the location of controls changing either "intelligently" or "contextually". Muscle memory tells me exactly where a control should be. If I reach for that location and the control is gone or now does something else because the temperature hit some threshold, then I have to focus attention away from the road and onto the screen to figure out the current UI context.

Fair enough. But there’s zero reason to keep the passenger controls as quick access icons when no passenger is present. That doesn’t interfere with the driver’s “muscle memory” or pose a “safety risk”. I hate having to dive down into the hvac settings to adjust fan speed when 95% of driving is done solo and could have just as easily adjusted the fan speed through a quick access icon.
 
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pkodali

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Oct 22, 2017
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Fair enough. But there’s zero reason to keep the passenger controls as quick access icons when no passenger is present. That doesn’t interfere with the driver’s “muscle memory” or pose a “safety risk”. I hate having to dive down into the hvac settings to adjust fan speed when 95% of driving is done solo and could have just as easily adjusted the fan speed through a quick access icon.
If fan speed is such a commonly adjusted item, you should bind that to the right scrollwheel.
 

GatorGuy

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Feb 25, 2018
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I don't want the icons changing "contextually" because you would never know when that would engage.

However, there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to pick what I want as a quick access icons. In Florida, heated seats isn't one of them.
 

Nitemare3219

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Aug 25, 2017
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My wife often uses seat warmers to relieve back pain.
I thought my phone was about to explode, but then realized she left the heater on yesterday.

Sounds like something that should be software fixed. I've had this happen too. Wife leaves the seat heater on when we exit the car, just for me to have to turn it off the next time I drive without her. The car should be smart enough to not "remember" the passenger seat heat setting if the seat is empty when the car is put into gear (remote climate control, maybe remember the setting... or give us the option to manually select).

Absolutely not. Controls should remain fixed, not change "contextually". This is a safety issue.

A safety issue? Please LOL. We're talking about seat heating and miscellaneous controls. These are touch screen controls with no feedback as well, meaning zero assurance you are ever pressing the right button without looking. I imagine you also never use the keyboard or vehicle settings menu while driving because it is a safety issue as well? I do, and I don't see it as a safety issue. Clearly Tesla doesn't either, or they'd lock it out like just about every other manufacturer.
 
Oct 3, 2011
767
65
Portland, OR
I don't want the icons changing "contextually" because you would never know when that would engage.

However, there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to pick what I want as a quick access icons. In Florida, heated seats isn't one of them.

Yeah. This is a solution that makes everyone happy. They certainly could allow the user to change which icons they want there.
 
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Mediocrates

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Apr 16, 2017
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I imagine you also never use the keyboard or vehicle settings menu while driving because it is a safety issue as well? I do, and I don't see it as a safety issue. Clearly Tesla doesn't either, or they'd lock it out like just about every other manufacturer.

Whenever a vehicle is moving and the driver is not looking at the road, it is a safety issue.
 
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