Old S's were in the low to mid 20's, you might get one for less than 30k now. The buying season started early this year due to tax returns + relief money all dropping at the same time. Also new car production issues due to chip shortages. If you haven't bought what you want already this year, expect to pay a premium. I had that conversation with my wife a few weeks ago that if we needed another car the time was then. It most likely gets worse from here all the way until next winter.