Yeah I'm thinking the same thing. This is nothing more than a street racing thread, and there's no indication people are only talking about highways, which is ridiculous. If someone wants to 'race' you (how you determine that, I have no idea, nor care) you smile, shake your head and ignore. At least that's the adult thing to do, but then there's a shortage of those in general it seems (and certainly when it comes to driving!)
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Why do BMW drivers who encounter Teslas almost always embarass themselves?
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Yeah I'm thinking the same thing. This is nothing more than a street racing thread, and there's no indication people are only talking about highways, which is ridiculous. If someone wants to 'race' you (how you determine that, I have no idea, nor care) you smile, shake your head and ignore. At least that's the adult thing to do, but then there's a shortage of those in general it seems (and certainly when it comes to driving!)
ThosEM
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It may well be juvenile to race other cars above posted speed limits on public roads. But, I'm quick to point out, there are NO acceleration limits posted on public roads!
That's called "display of speed" in many jurisdictions and can still get you a ticket.
True, but with the MS this should be rare unless you are squealing tires. ICE vehicles are much more likely to get this ticket from all the noise they make, not their acceleration speed.
gg_got_a_tesla
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I never said that. Race tracks are definitely the best and safest way to get an understanding of the vehicle performance. I would certainly like to see a Nurburgring lap time for a Model S P85+ or see lap times at time trial / Time Attack events in the U.S.. The Model S is a great car and I'm glad I own one but its not replacing my M3 on the track anytime soon.
dhrivnak
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Bristol Speedway has a 1/4 mile track open for "Street Fights" where any car can come and race (well most any as there is a cursory safety inspection). the fee is $10 for virtually unlimited runs down the track.
The best quote after a night there was a post from a BMW where they posted the Beemer won all heats except one against a silly electric so that didn't count.
I got a laugh as in my book that VERY much counted and it is perfectly legal. It is the only place I can drive my car over 100mph and not worry about a ticket or a wreck.
The best quote after a night there was a post from a BMW where they posted the Beemer won all heats except one against a silly electric so that didn't count.
I got a laugh as in my book that VERY much counted and it is perfectly legal. It is the only place I can drive my car over 100mph and not worry about a ticket or a wreck.
gnelson
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Or even at 70 mph
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If you were interested in a sedan with an ICE with performance you should have selected a Cadillac CTSV.
SCW-Greg
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Yeah just remind them, that a 3800lb station wagon, schooled "the ultimate driving machine."
People do this **** all the time, I don't see what it has to do with BMW.
Maybe it's confirmation bias. Yeah I saw someone do something stupid AND it was one of those stupid BMW's.
AustinPowers
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Funny, over here it's more the image of Audi drivers than BMW's (as a BMW driver myself I second that of course ;-) ), but still, the direction is clear.
I'm talking road courses which test multiple aspects of a performance car (power, braking, handling...). Drag strips are rather one dimensional. If you want to do it U.S. style use the Car and Driver lighting lap track, VIR.
BTW, BMW bikes = beemer, BMW cars = bimmer
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I don't think the issue is all that more complex morally/ethically than it is legally.
The main thing you forgot to take into account is that most often accidents happen as a result of unexpected events. One such unexpected event would be someone driving considerably faster than the speed limit. Other street users expect other cars to travel at around the speed limit, when estimating when it is safe to cross the street, change lanes, etc. (Obviously this also makes it hazardous to drive much SLOWER that the speed limit.) Safety is achieved by people following the rules and behaving as expected.
So, regardless of how good a driver YOU are, driving much faster than the speed limit will not only increase yours but also other people's risk of getting into an accident. I don't think this is morally any more acceptable than it is legally.
Sorry for the rant, just wanted to bring this up. Feel free to continue with the BMW vs MS racing discussions.
I'm not saying that driving fast is always, or even often safe, but if there are no other cars around, no on-ramps or the like, and one has a clear view of the next few hundred meters, it can be (acceptably) safe. Of course, nothing is ever completely safe. People should always be safety conscious, and that's the case regardless of whether one is driving above or below the limit.
really? BMWs? I get a lot of stares from BMW drivers but for me it's the fast and furious honda's that try to show off the most (they always lose, very badly too). the only guy who seems to keep up with me on multiple occasions (he's got the same commute home down the turnpike) is a Tesla Roadster owner haha
GG: I have a confession to make. Usually I'm immune to taunts by those of lesser acceleration, but I suffered a major relapse tonight (probably secondary to the sudden onset of spring around here, finally.) The most fun comes when you have a BMW snuggle up close at the next traffic signal, trying to figure out the make of that car that just blew their socks off. Guess it's back to my 12-step program tomorrow (I'll force myself to drive the Leaf to work as penance....)
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