I'm sure the owners of the half of the cars that Tesla sells outside the US will be thrilled to learn that they are irrelevant.
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I'm sure the owners of the half of the cars that Tesla sells outside the US will be thrilled to learn that they are irrelevant.
Tam
Well-Known Member
I would like modify the statement as: No, none except if you are GM:
Cadillac CT6's surround-view cameras can act like a dashcam - Roadshow
It's a built-in 360 degree security camera for your 2016 Cadillac CT6s with a supplied 32 GB SD card which is good for 32 hours of recording.
hill
high fiber member
if people don't want a dash cam - it's because they're totally clueless as to how many unscrupulous / fraudsters there are. A co-worker's insurance company just rolled over & paid off a phony / staged accident /2 plaintiff's injuries because it's often cheaper than going to court. The criminal driver even claimed there was a passenger when there was none. 2 against 1, for believability / veracity. It's a huge industry. And they watch for expensive cars to hit .... they don't crash into your typical piece of crap. They go for deep pockets. Couple that with road rage as well as parking lot 'smash-&-grab' artists? Why do people have medical insurance? Why do people have auto & /or homeowners' insurance. Why do people purchase huge umbrella policies when they may never benefit from it. same with a dash cam. You don't need it until you really need it.
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Of course not. As others stated, there are countries where video recording is illegal as well.
AlanSqB
Dog Chauffeur
I've been affected by a stunt like this with a car that deliberately "swooped and squatted". The legal process actually went on for two years with the "victims" continuing to generate new and exotic new health issues as they were represented by one of the worst ambulance chasing firms in Central FL. Eventually, after multiple settlements, it all finally went away.
While I think a dashcam could have had a very important impact on this case, I don't think I'll ever have one that doesn't have encryption. I want to have sole control over who is able to access that footage. A warrant can get the SD card, but you cannot be compelled to provide the password. If the dash cam is controlled by a third party, Tesla in this example, they could possibly be compelled to provide the information. Not ideal.
Not interested in hearing any, "you shouldn't have anything to hide" responses. Things happen, other people hire unscrupulous lawyers, missing context is often very important, etc, etc, etc. Bottom line, I want to control that video. If the other parties want video, let them install their own cameras.
Akikiki
A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
You mean the one that Chevy had to send a letter to owners about possibly being illegal?
And why does Tesla need an SD slot? It has two USB ports....
It really matters if you want it for when you are driving, or also when you're parked.
and you're going to force your views onto to those who don't share them.
where have I heard something like this before?
hill
high fiber member
very sorry, but that's incomprehendable - please help me here ... how is my 'viewpoint' (that a dash cam is like any other type of assurance methodology) anymore 'forced' than your prior viewpoint that,
"... most people really don't want one ... '
no one's forcing anyone to read anything if I understand our forum rules. moreover if someone makes a blanket statement such as, "most people really don't want one"... it's is no more real or true then someone simply claiming no one wants medical insurance or homeowners insurance. You really need to back up with some offering of proof of what you believe to be true ... you are damning someone for doing same thing that you are doing. . . . .
not that I'm forcing that view anyone
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SabrToothSqrl
Active Member
It could use the USB ports - that's fine. There are large USB memory sticks now.
Chevy (from what I've read) was in a legal grey area as the system recorded AUDIO. In the US, it's 100% legal to record VIDEO. (public places, no consent needed).
AFAIK, AP doesn't use audio. Although, it may be useful for a self driving car to know when it's being honked at
I've recently begun using an iPod to make dash recordings of every trip and now view this as indispensable. With 6 vehicles being used it required a simple dash mount, a food container lid, to be mounted on each dash. Then the camera (iPod Touch 5) can be quickly and easily set up on whatever vehicle I choose to drive that day. In my opinion the resulting audio & video from inside the car 'belong to me' as I do not fear my own shadow nor do I waste time keeping lists of reasons why I should fear my shadow.
Bottom line: recording one's activities is so easy to do with today's equipment that there is no reason not to do so. The results can be rewarding. This device offers an amazing built-in stabilization that rivals Hollywood Steady-Cams so the videos are easy to watch (the car body jumps up and down yet the view to the horizon is usually stable).
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Bottom line: recording one's activities is so easy to do with today's equipment that there is no reason not to do so. The results can be rewarding. This device offers an amazing built-in stabilization that rivals Hollywood Steady-Cams so the videos are easy to watch (the car body jumps up and down yet the view to the horizon is usually stable).
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vdiv
Chief Grump
I too have endlessly wondered about the lack of fulfilled opportunities of the systems available on the car. I've reached the conclusion that it's pointless if not harmful to my happiness. Stop wondering!
Existing cameras are kind of low-res and also Black and White (except the backup camera which IS color, but the use is kind of limited due to the angle).
On a tesla dashcam I would not settle for anything less than 4K
On the Corvette, it's color and 720p
SabrToothSqrl
Active Member
As for recording in a public space:
United Apologizes After Agent Cancels Passenger’s Ticket For Recording Her
My favorite part:
"Eventually, the agent called airport police. When asked if he had to delete the video, the officer told the man he could do whatever the wanted, as it was a public space."
"No expectation of privacy" I believe is the phrase. But I'm not a lawyer. I only play one on TV.
United Apologizes After Agent Cancels Passenger’s Ticket For Recording Her
My favorite part:
"Eventually, the agent called airport police. When asked if he had to delete the video, the officer told the man he could do whatever the wanted, as it was a public space."
"No expectation of privacy" I believe is the phrase. But I'm not a lawyer. I only play one on TV.
this is what I was referring to....says the footage is from autopilot cam.
Tesla hacker grabs crash footage from lifesaving Model S
Tesla hacker grabs crash footage from lifesaving Model S
Blastphemy
Member
There's nothing illegal about recording video and/or audio. What's illegal is to use it in a way that violates the law. For example, using an audio recording for blackmail. Also, audio recordings made without the consent of both parties (and without a warrant) are not admissible as evidence in court. But you can still make the recording, especially if you're in a public space where there's no expectation of privacy.
In addition to the front and rear dash cams, let's add on clear coat bra like Xpel Ultimate or lifetime free car wash at my local car wash.
No. Video can be recorded anywhere in public, even from a drone above your backyard. Private property I can't comment on, they can take you to civil court but it's not illegal unless you are trespassing.
If you remember a product called Google Glass, you will note that it was not deemed illegal.
