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Discussion in 'Model S' started by steven315, Jan 21, 2017.
Would love a lighter version with smaller battery but performance. Even a P60DL!
Would be Awesome!
BUTTTT...... Hate to be a buzz kill!
Range Would be much lower......
A big limiting factor would also be the discharge rate of a smaller battery versus the larger one. It's well known that the P models have best performance at max charge and lower performance at lower states of charge.
You only have to floor it a few times a day...! Or maybe they could put a counter on it... No, wait, they tried that and it didn't work out so well...
The same reason there's no 75 or 90 available. It drives sales of the 100, which has higher margins.
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60/75 battery has a lower voltage (less cells) which in turn reduces its max power output. Same current produces less power. Some of you may remember the original S60D which was never manufactured. Orders were accepted for a very short time (couple of weeks maybe) until Tesla realized that the original actual 60 battery cannot handle dual motor at all. So, 70D was born. Today's 60D's actually have the 75 batteries.
The only reason for offering in the 60, is the same reason Tesla temporarily offered the 40 - so they can offer an entry-level Model S around $60K (after rebates).
A P100D costs around $40K more than a 100D. A fully loaded 60D costs around $95K - and, assuming you could put the performance hardware on a 60D using a 75 battery pack, would people really spend $135K for a car that would have under 200 miles of range, with acceleration that is a small improvement over a fully loaded 100D with 335 miles of range?
Ignoring the technical details, the price points don't make much sense.
The lower battery voltage limits the power...
I think a P60D would be slower than an ordinary S90D because of the battery is current limited.
Even a P90D or P100D is still current limited.
The motor can handle more power, but the battery just can't deliver it.
Maybe a $75k p40d?
Estimated range: Distance required to go 0-60mph.
Does BMW make an M3/M4 with a smaller engine, does Mercedes make an S sedan AMG with a 4 cylinder? Do they offer options on fuel tanks? No.
There's also output potentials with the larger battery packs that cannot be done with the 60kwh.
A rare sighting of an unicorn Model S P60D today.