Why I’m not keen on "Super-Fast" Super chargers

[Edders]

Given the news that the super chargers will be getting faster I have mixed feelings

Let me start by saying that I don’t use super chargers often just when I do the odd long journey

So what’s my problem?? My Car charges faster than I can complete my comfort break, which in turn costs me more as I end up increasing the amount of charge to more than I need to get to my destination to avoid idle fee’s. It’s a long cold and wet walk from the services to the charges at Rugby for example!!

Third world issues I know but I need to get it off my chest

Edders

 

[LukeUK]

Absolutely agree.

At Rugby, I end up going out to move the car across to a non-charging space, whilst my wife and kids finish up and follow me out.

I don't pre-heat because I don't want to use energy to make this problem worse.

 

[Squidge]

Given the news that the super chargers will be getting faster I have mixed feelings

Let me start by saying that I don’t use super chargers often just when I do the odd long journey

So what’s my problem?? My Car charges faster than I can complete my comfort break, which in turn costs me more as I end up increasing the amount of charge to more than I need to get to my destination to avoid idle fee’s. It’s a long cold and wet walk from the services to the charges at Rugby for example!!

Third world issues I know but I need to get it off my chest

Edders

Sounds like you need to see a urologist!

In all seriousness, you should be able to set a charge limit so you don't go above your desired amount of charge. Info on how to do this is readily available online.

 

[spdpsba]

Given the news that the super chargers will be getting faster I have mixed feelings

Let me start by saying that I don’t use super chargers often just when I do the odd long journey

So what’s my problem?? My Car charges faster than I can complete my comfort break, which in turn costs me more as I end up increasing the amount of charge to more than I need to get to my destination to avoid idle fee’s. It’s a long cold and wet walk from the services to the charges at Rugby for example!!

Third world issues I know but I need to get it off my chest

Edders

Do it the other way, park it closer to services and finish your comfort break, may be get some food (it takes a long time their to get hold of the food) then take the car and go to the charging point and comfortably watch a movie and eat your food. Good during covid times as you can avoid contact with others.

 

[Edders]

I'm Old but not that old my "Comfort Break" would include food and drink if it was just a toilet break then no issues

Thanks

Edders

 

[Mrklaw]

Sounds like you need to see a urologist!

In all seriousness, you should be able to set a charge limit so you don't go above your desired amount of charge. Info on how to do this is readily available online.

But then you get charged idle fees.. Increasing your charge limit is a good tactic to avoid that, but you’re still paying for the extra leccy.

if its a 10-15 minute stop its probably worth just staying with the car then moving after

 

[AutomaticMan]

Haha... I hear you! I had an e-Golf that took forever to charge, and then an ID.3 which was a lot quicker. I did often find myself missing the long charge time of the e-Golf as I rushed back to the ID.3 having not finished eating my food somewhere!

I guess with the Tesla I might sometimes have to treat it more like I would an ICE car. As in, refuel (charge) the car before or after my food break, rather than during.

 

[LukeUK]

Do it the other way, park it closer to services and finish your comfort break, may be get some food (it takes a long time their to get hold of the food) then take the car and go to the charging point and comfortably watch a movie and eat your food. Good during covid times as you can avoid contact with others.

Yup we've done it this way round at times, it can work well.

 

[pgkevet]

Thermos and sarnies... no problem and no waste

 

[Rooster6655]

At Rugby, I end up going out to move the car across to a non-charging space, whilst my wife and kids finish up and follow me out.

Yes Rugby is super fast, got there and after 5m at full speed charging was enough to get going!

 

[GRiLLA]

Third world issues I know

I think maybe you mean First-World Issues ...

charges at Rugby for example!!

ah, ok, as you were.

 

[PDB33]

I think maybe you mean First-World Issues ...

ah, ok, as you were.

My 2017 S 75D thinks I like to linger over lunch. kW + SOC (e.g. 80kW at 30% SOC) is never greater than 110.

 

[Jason71]

My M3 never charges at the max rate of the current V3 superchargers so will an upgrade make a difference? I have always assumed that the car was the limiting factor

 

[Big Earl]

Given the news that the super chargers will be getting faster I have mixed feelings

Let me start by saying that I don’t use super chargers often just when I do the odd long journey

So what’s my problem?? My Car charges faster than I can complete my comfort break, which in turn costs me more as I end up increasing the amount of charge to more than I need to get to my destination to avoid idle fee’s. It’s a long cold and wet walk from the services to the charges at Rugby for example!!

Third world issues I know but I need to get it off my chest

Edders

Don't worry, your current car isn't going to charge any faster unless it's a brand new Plaid Model S or X, in which case it will charge slightly faster at very low states of charge. The increased speed will really only be realized by vehicles with bigger packs like the Cybertruck and perhaps smaller 4680 packs... time will tell.

 

[phil4]

Even the slower ones can catch you out. I stopped with the kid at the Thetford forest charger, went into the pub next door, and we'd only just got our food on the table when it was time to leg it out and move it. Not such a pain in reality, but does nicely show why slower chargers in places where you might stay for a few hours are a good thing (eg shops, cinemas, restaurants). Not everything needs to be super fast.

 

[AutomaticMan]

Even the slower ones can catch you out. I stopped with the kid at the Thetford forest charger, went into the pub next door, and we'd only just got our food on the table when it was time to leg it out and move it. Not such a pain in reality, but does nicely show why slower chargers in places where you might stay for a few hours are a good thing (eg shops, cinemas, restaurants). Not everything needs to be super fast.

100% agree. It really winds me up when destinations like cinemas or shopping centres or tourist attractions put in a couple of rapid chargers. For the same money they could surely put in 3 or 4 times as many 7kW destination chargers that would be far more suited to the normal use of the destination (as in, people tend to park for a few hours). It just shows that the people who make these decisions don’t actually understand how EV charging works in the real world.

 

[SageBrush]

One way to 'slow down' the V3 Supercharger is to arrive with a higher SoC

 

[dazzap]

Can't you just reduce the maximum charge rate amps down? tbh if you're not in a rush, charging at a lower rate should (in theory) help maintain your battery health. Tesla actually advise using high charge rates as little as possible to keep battery healthy longer.

 

[Big Earl]

Can't you just reduce the maximum charge rate amps down? tbh if you're not in a rush, charging at a lower rate should (in theory) help maintain your battery health. Tesla actually advise using high charge rates as little as possible to keep battery healthy longer.

Only on AC charging; not on a Supercharger.