I skipped Paris in my SR+ on my drive through France last year (same route as I used to do in an ICE). I found the car was usually topped up and ready to move on before I and the rest of the family had finished our break. I was worried that the SR+ wouldn't quite do the job for long trips abroad but, in the end, it was a perfect fit.
That depends on circumstances. If you assume that each driver has a lunch break, the difference shrinks to one hour between a piston-engine car and a SR+, to a half hour between a piston-engine car and a LR. The difference between LR and SR+ shrinks to a half hour.
I think range is the wrong question. I use the word only because almost every ICE driver asks me for the range. It's an obsession of ICE drivers when they are confronted with an EV.
No. I skip Paris entirely by going to Rouen and then cutting across to Orleans via Chartres. I'm usually traveling peak season and have used that route ever since the day it took me about six hours to get round Paris
. It's well frequented by Brits avoiding Paris. It's about the same distance if you're planning to travel down the A10 and, according to Google Maps, only about an extra 30 minutes Calais to Orleans, largely because of the slow road between Chartres and the A10. (Also a good saving on tolls).If you assume you drive two hours and take a 20-minute break and keep repeating that (as Highway Code advises), the difference between a piston engine, SR+ and LR is nothing.
It’s more than that though, isn’t it? As EV converts, it’s important we don’t perpetuate the myth that EVs won’t work for people unless they go as far as an ICE. A real motorway range of 200 miles added to 100kw+ rapid charging and good infrastructure will work for most people who are not having to daily drive long distances professionally. Cars that will do that are still more than expensive enough for most budgets.
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Your SR+ figures sound too high. I can't replicate them in ABRP. If I put in a journey of 938 miles, Calais to Spain, I get a charging time of 2h 43 mins for SR+. I'd probably stop more often in an SR+ and keep charging speeds high rather than stick to a strict two hours between stops. The longest journey I've done in a day is 400 miles. I made three supercharger stops totalling 55 minutes. Basically, I need an average 20-minute stop for every 100 miles apart from the first 100 and the last 100 miles. So, for 900 miles that's 7 x 20 minute stops ie 2 hours 20 mins.What if I told you, you still stop every 2 hours with LR and still arrive there faster and using less money?
SR, break every 2 hours:
Cost 87 €ABRP
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Charge time - 3 h 56 min
Distance 928 mi
Drive time 14 h 55
Longest stretch - 2 hours 8 min
Total 18 hours 51 min
LR, break every 2 hours
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Cost 83 € - costs less because you took more from home
Charge time 1 h 47 min - charge less as explained before
Distance 927 mi - less distance due to fewer stops
Drive time 14 h 37 min - less time due to fewer stops
Longest stretch - 2 h 15 min
Total 16 hours 54 min
Not so for everyone. It depends on whether routes you might want to take go via available/reliable charging stations or whether you have to divert to get to them. 250 miles...is that winter rang?. If not then it's really 200miles and personally I'd never aim to come home with less than 30 miles left in case of the unexpected. Add to that stopping on a day out and car needing to rewarm it's insides and you have 200 minus 30 minus 5 miles range... so an 83mile each way day trip. Until chargers are ubiquitous I'd wish for a 500 mile summer 400 mile winter range.
That's a good point. You can just imagine a, say e Tron or ipace driver coming on here and seeing an argument about efficient EVs and thinking.. oh... Hmmm maybe I need to drive slower.Just been reading the posts in this thread. The theme of why I bought a SR+ seems to have become why I bought a LR ! And it’s become some kind of M3 model pissing competition! Yes, the long range has a longer range! Be happy folks
