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Why is FSD not transferable to your next Tesla?

Tundrok

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Sep 1, 2020
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Seattle
Having FSD in my MY is nice, but as Tesla admits, it's not the final product. I think that until they reach the point of having the software in it's final form, with true FSD as they promised, they should allow all the "guinea pigs" to transfer the software to a new vehicle.

I think it’s just so absurd to spend money on a completely unfinished software feature. By the time it gets “good”, so many other auto companies and tech companies will be highly competitive and this mythical $40k price point for FULL self driving will be total bullshit. The price isn’t going to keep dramatically increasing and anyone who thinks it will really has no clue about economy of scale. The price will go up as it remains largely niche but will hit a massive inflection point when it gets out of beta for a while and as the competition heats up
 

CapeOne

Member
Jun 14, 2016
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473
New England
Below is FSD ("Full Self-Driving Capability") as described on the Tesla website in 2016. It was a $3k option on top of the $5k optional EAP.

2016FSD.jpg
 

Ludalicious

Active Member
Feb 22, 2018
1,105
1,194
Vancouver
Ahhhh the infamous advertising. Sold me on it in 2017 with the vehicle driving around without anyone steering. Kinda get a chuckle going back and reading the wording.

Really wish it was transferable... I mean come the F.. on. It's clear the vehicles will not be capable of driving around with the current cameras and hardware installed. I mean it would be cheaper to just start over new and sell someone a new vehicle that's capable without spending endless time and resources of how to make the old systems work. Just mind boggling... Elon will not accept defeat
 

Ludalicious

Active Member
Feb 22, 2018
1,105
1,194
Vancouver
May I introduce you to the FSD Beta video thread, where "current cameras and hardware installed" are able to drive around on their own! FSD Beta Videos (and questions for FSD Beta drivers) :rolleyes:o_O

I am aware of these threads. Neat thread.

Back to my point there is absolutely no evidence that the current vehicles are capable of FSD. So in return we should be given the opportunity to have our FSD that we purchased be transferable.

Please show me evidence without any human intervention while operating under all scenarios. There is no evidence that the vehicles can successfully navigate all scenarios without human intervention. That's why it's called a BETA!
 
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mspisars

Active Member
May 23, 2014
2,032
1,367
Charlotte, NC
Back to my point there is absolutely no evidence that the current vehicles are capable of FSD. So in return we should be given the opportunity to have our FSD that we purchased be transferable.
Those are the current vehicles performing those tasks. Not some specially built vehicles that only Tesla R&D has.
 

run-the-joules

Active Member
Aug 13, 2017
3,561
6,363
SF Bay
"Why is FSD not transferable to your next Tesla?"

Because Tesla has two types of current customers:

The ones that can be screwed over repeatedly and keep coming back to buy another car with a smile, aka the customers they like.

The ones who have a limited number of times they can be screwed over, aka the customers they don't like.

Their current belief seems to be that if they treat the latter category like crap, we'll be replaced by people who aren't customers yet, and those replacements may be the type of people in the first category. If not, repeat until they are.
 

DrDabbles

Active Member
Jul 28, 2017
1,033
1,240
NH, US
Their current belief seems to be that if they treat the latter category like crap, we'll be replaced by people who aren't customers yet, and those replacements may be the type of people in the first category. If not, repeat until they are.

Yeah, flat out, as more "normal" customers come around, they aren't going to put up with the bullshit and empty promises. This is a problem of Tesla's making by promising something they couldn't have possibly delivered.
 

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