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Why is the Tesla 24' Gen 2 wall charger so much on eBay? Do folks like them more than the Gen 3?
Not on any car that has a max charge current of 48 Amps or less. Some older Moled X/S can and will charge faster on a Gen2 WC if it's set up for more than 48 Amps though.Not sure where the 80a is an advantage as according to this chart nothing changes regarding charging speed compared to the 60a Gen3.
To me that is an advantage. I have both a gen2 and a gen3 WC and I don't like how flimsy the gen3 cord feels, plus it gets quite warm when I charge at 48 Amps. Personally I prefer the heavier cable on the gen2 WC.The charge cable is twice the size and consequently twice the weight.
Correct, but also not necessarily a problem. The remaining power should be more than enough for most folks.The unit could be on a 100a breaker however this is probably 1/2 of available power in the average 200a service panel.
That is a blessing and a curse. With updates via WiFi Tesla could be tempted to sell a product that is not really fully developed, fully knowing that they can just push an update at a later time. Seeing what they have done with the UI in the car I'd rather not want them to mess with my WC. All I want is a product that works. If I need to charge, I want to plug in the car and be done with it. Much like @jjrandorin I would also prefer wires over a WiFi connection if I needed the power sharing feature.No built in wifi for updates and user selected options therefor not as smart as the Gen3
Possibly, but afaik the gen2 units don't seem to have a lot of problems. All the threads about WC problems popped up when gen3 came out.If a unit goes on the blink then you will probably need to switch over to a Gen3 unless you want to pay twice as much if you can find one that is and there would not be a warranty on it.
80 Amps seems over the edge to me. With my 48 Amp setup I'm charging the battery at 11.5 kW, so it takes roughly seven hours to charge from 0-100% (which has never happened). Yes, 80 Amps would make it even faster on a car with the required hardware, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter to the vast majority of people.The Gen3 is already the most powerful home charger one can get today. The world standard is less than the 60a Gen3 for a reason and require a 50a breaker for full capacity in comparison. 80a was simply not a great idea for the average home owner.
that chart is obviously not accurate, anyone can tell you that a car charges faster at 19kW than it does at 11kW. and i can back that up since i have used many 11kw and own a 19kw one. and guess what? my car charges faster at home at 19kW than at 11kW ones in the wildNot sure where the 80a is an advantage as according to this chart nothing changes regarding charging speed compared to the 60a Gen3.
No built in wifi for updates and user selected options therefor not as smart as the Gen3
When I was working for Tesla last year we had over 1200 Gen 2 HPWC in stock. I was told they were being held for warranty exchange and once that potential is gone, they will liquidate.that chart is obviously not accurate, anyone can tell you that a car charges faster at 19kW than it does at 11kW. and i can back that up since i have used many 11kw and own a 19kw one. and guess what? my car charges faster at home at 19kW than at 11kW ones in the wild
Not connected to Wi-Fi is a feature, i hate all this IOT smart home crap.
As far as the OP and eBay i was able to score a brand new sealed in box Gen 2 HPWC for $500 a couple months ago. It either fell off the back of a truck or was a referral reward that the owner didn't need, But since he was selling 6 of them at once I'm pretty sure they fell off the back of a truck lol.
Just keep your eyes open and check HPWC every couple days, there are some used ones that pop up every few weeks for $400 or so. But i should've just bought out all that guys stock and sold the other 5 for like $700 each
lol, no.The Gen3 is already the most powerful home charger one can get today.
WrongThe Gen3 is already the most powerful home charger one can get today.
Yeah and look at that price that's insane and it's only 64A.
Not sure where the 80a is an advantage as according to this chart nothing changes regarding charging speed compared to the 60a Gen3.
Yes mine had the second internal charger. They made it free while my car was already ordered and they would not change it. Oh well, fun times.As others have said, older Model S and X cars (I believe those prior to 2018) had an optional second internal charger that allowed the car to charge up to 72A on an 80A circuit which can net ~50-53 miles per hour as opposed to ~30 on a 60A circuit.
The chart is showing the max rate a current Tesla can charge which is why the numbers don't change after 48A.