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Wikipedia on Electric Vehicles - articles being removed

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles' started by vfx, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. vfx

    vfx Well-Known Member

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    #1 vfx, Jan 19, 2011
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    This letter is from Forbes Black. Though he does not mention Tesla specifically, the Roadster could be next. There are some excellent writers here so I thought it was worth putting this out.

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    Hello All,

    One of Wikipedia's greatest strengths is its open format. Anyone can edit. Unfortunately, this strength can become a weakness in the hands of unscrupulous editors. I remember that my ex-wife, a publicist, used to try to "pitch" her clients on Wikipedia by posting praise of these clients in there own Wikipedia articles and in other articles as well. Of course, she was well paid for her efforts by her clients.

    I don't know if the anti-EV forces on Wikipedia are being paid, or if they are just people who don't like electric cars. Whatever their motivations might be, a small but determined group of Wikipedia editors is trying to eliminate nearly all articles on electric vehicles in Wikipedia. Their most frequent tactic in doing this is to take an article on an EV and merge it with another article. Once merged, they dismantle the section on the EV, saying that it makes the other article too long or that the subject matter is unimportant.

    This tactic recently reached its most absurd point when editors suggested that the article on the BYD 56DM EV be merged with an article on the BYD 56 gas vehicle, EVEN THOUGH NO ARTICLE ON THE GAS VEHICLE EXISTS AS OF THIS POINT!

    We need to fight back to make sure EVs are represented in Wikipedia. If you've never edited Wikipedia, here is your chance to start. There are a number of discussions underway in which the editors mentioned above are trying to eliminate EV articles. We need to get as many people as we possibly can to contribute to these discussions to make sure EV articles are not "Blacklisted" on the world's most frequently visited encyclopedia.

    Here are links to some of the discussions currently underway:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles#Mitsubishi_i-MiEV

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles#Ford_Focus_BEV

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles#Mini_E

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles#BYD_F6DM

    Please, contribute to the discussion if you can. Just go to the page listed in the link and click the "edit" button to add your opinion.

    Please forward this message to other groups you think might be interested. We need to get the word out to as many people as possible.

    Thank you very much.

    Forbes Black
     
  2. dpeilow

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    Rather worrying, but not surprising. Anyone notified Wikipedia management? We know Jimmy Wales is pro-EV because he is a member here...

    Perhaps someone could guard the articles, maybe Cobos as keeper of the FAQ?
     
  3. Cobos

    Cobos S60 owner since 2013

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    Huh? What do you mean by that? You want me for admin duties? :)

    Cobos
     
  4. dpeilow

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    Just thought that as you did our FAQ a while ago, you might like to keep an eye on the Wikipedia article :)
     
  5. EVNow

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    Are there any specific instances of this ? That will help ...
     
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    For reference:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_electric_vehicle
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicle
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_production_plug-in_electric_vehicles

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_BEV
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_MiEV
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_C30_Electric
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coda_Automotive
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_F3DM
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_e6
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_RAV4_EV
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_EV
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_S-10_EV
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_TEVan
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Altra
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_EPIC
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_EV_Plus
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_TH!NK
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Hypermini
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REVAi
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_(electric_car)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_C1_ev%27ie
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_A1#A1_e-tron
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_electric_drive
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500_Elettra
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_E
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_ActiveE
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheego_Whip_LiFe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Fluence_Z.E.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Vito
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Fit_EV
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_BlueOn

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prius_Plug-in_Hybrid
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisker_Karma
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_V70_Plug-in_Hybrid

    What has been merged / deleted?
    The only thing I see mixed right now is VW (blue-e-motion part of overall Golf topic):
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf#Golf_blue-e-motion
    and new RAV4EV part of old:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_RAV4_EV#Second_generation
     
  7. Cobos

    Cobos S60 owner since 2013

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    I did our FAQ? I think you must confuse me with someone else, I'd gladly take credit for things, but I've never been in any "official" editor role I believe. ??

    Cobos
     
  8. dpeilow

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    Ahh sorry - it was WarpedOne - I must be getting old :frown:

    Perhaps you would like to do it anyway :biggrin:
     
  9. EVNow

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    I'm somewhat conflicted about this.

    Obviously if the EV part gets deleted - that is bad. But if it gets merged with the ICE version - more people will realize that Golf or Focus has an EV version as well.

    Though, I think wikipedia is not used much at all for researching cars. There are tons of sites devoted to that. I don't get wiki in the search in the first two pages of google /bing.
     

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