The battery warranty is for 70% at 8 years or 100k / 125k miles depending on model. The OP was originally asking about 20 years or 200k miles. while a battery may be at even 50% capacity in that time, that wouldnt make the car not drivable.
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Will a Model 3 SR+ last 20 years driving on average 15,000 km/year?
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The battery warranty is for 70% at 8 years or 100k / 125k miles depending on model. The OP was originally asking about 20 years or 200k miles. while a battery may be at even 50% capacity in that time, that wouldnt make the car not drivable.
Most Toyota’s are good for 20 years.
I suspect the battery degradation curve will go up substantially at some point. Kind of unknown at this time though. Huge revenue stream for Tesla as some point though.
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BigNick
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There is no way to know for sure. Right now, the oldest Roadster isn’t yet 20 years old.
Plus, there is a huge difference between the older chemistry 18650-based Roadster packs vs the new 2170L-based packs going into the 3 now.
If I knew the answer, I’d be 10% as rich as Elon. Which would be enough for 100 lifetimes.
Plus, there is a huge difference between the older chemistry 18650-based Roadster packs vs the new 2170L-based packs going into the 3 now.
If I knew the answer, I’d be 10% as rich as Elon. Which would be enough for 100 lifetimes.
Interesting article on the 20 year topic.
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How Long Do Tesla Model 3 Last? (Complete Guide) - Engine Patrol
The Tesla Model 3 was introduced with much fanfare surrounding it as it was slated to be (and still is) Tesla’s most affordable vehicle and its first ever mass-market offering. Despite being priced significantly lower than previous Teslas, it still […]
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RayK
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I do not believe that there's any federal regulation that forces auto manufacturers to provide parts for vehicles that have gone out of production for any prescribed amount of time. Usually there's a robust third-party source for parts if the car is popular enough. At least that has been true of the ICE population; jury is still out for EV manufacturers, especially for "custom" components such as batteries and motors.
stopcrazypp
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They only have to support models under warranty legally (which for Tesla is 8 years). Then there are extended warranties related to emissions equipment (which do not apply to EVs given they are considered zero emissions).
California Vehicle and Emissions Warranty Periods | California Air Resources Board
There was a long running myth that there is a law (since EV1 days) where manufacturers are required to keep spare parts around (used to explain why GM took back and crushed the EV1 instead of selling to people), but no one was ever able to provide a reference to the actual law.
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Regarding the myth, the closest thing I ever found was relating to recall obligations. See Deciding to keep or trade-in 2011 Leaf @ 3 year ownership - Page 4 - My Nissan Leaf Forum.
I agree also about warranty obligations.
A few years ago, my insurance agent unprompted claimed that even some folks w/older Model S were having trouble getting parts (presumably for accident repairs) and had to get parts specially manufactured. I didn't press him for details. I didn't call him to chit chat about Teslas and it was during business hours, so I'm normally not able to take too much time away from my day job.
You're relatively new here. Numerous folks w/Model 3's have already required pack replacement under warranty (for whatever failed inside). I've pointed people to their posts here on TMC about them before. Numerous folks w/Model S have needed new packs in and out of 8 year warranty. That number is only increasing.
I don't find the odds too good that a 3 will still be on its original pack after 20 years. They might be decent for say 10 to 15 years w/at least 1 replacement during that time (e.g. get lucky and receive replacement packs before the 8 year warranty expires and that final pack lasts another few years). If the replacement pack is too costly, many will just dump the car.
I will agree with the rest.
Wish the poll had more choices.
I regret not adding more choices and clarifying the question better. Window to edit the original post was very short.
What poll voices would you add?
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No warranty is a guarantee of how long a vehicle will last in totality. Hyundai offers a 100,000 mile warranty whereas Toyota only offers 36,000. I would not believe that a Hyundai is going to last 3X as long as a Toyota.
Agreed. Toyota has reputation though. Hyundai still trying to earn a reputation.
ODWms
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Not nearly as heavy as you think it is. SR+ is about 3500lbs curb weight. A Camry is about 3400lbs. SR+ is lighter than a 330i.
So no - It’s mostly in your mind.
Interesting. Maybe the shocks are stiffer on the M3.
My Camry was 20 years old though so shocks were s little worn.
Hondas too. My wife's three year old Odyssey recently developed an interior leak that we still need to get fixed out of warranty (not A/C drain plug or anything, actual water from the outside leaking in). Lame. Come on Cybertruck!
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