Will Auto Lane Change even be included with Basic AutoPilot

[Redman113]

I think the only option I wish I could buy or have included with my car and Autopilot is "Auto Lane Change". I just don't think EAP is worth $6,000, and FSD is now $15,000...get out here!

Does anyone think ALC will ever be included with basic AP one day? I need some hope, I can't be the only one that hopes this will be true someday.

 

[MP3Mike]

I just don't think EAP is worth $6,000, and FSD is now $15,000...get out here!

No, FSD is still $12k. It is supposed to go to $15k on 9/5. (EAP will like go to $7.5k at the same time, if they keep up the tradition of it being half the cost of FSD.)

And no I don't think auto lane change will be a standard feature of AP, at least not for a long time. (Though they surprised me with the addition of the green light chime for free.)

 

[RoBoRaT]

When FSD Beta becomes widespread - I predict there will be subscription EAP for $99/month and subscription FSD will be up $199/month.

There's some bone for us, peasants.

 

[Tam]

I think the only option I wish I could buy or have included with my car and Autopilot is "Auto Lane Change". I just don't think EAP is worth $6,000, and FSD is now $15,000...get out here!

Does anyone think ALC will ever be included with basic AP one day? I need some hope, I can't be the only one that hopes this will be true someday.

If you can change Tesla philosophy of finding ways to extract more profits like making new owners to pay for mobile connectors.

 

[bradtem]

Alas, I don't even like most of the features of EAP. I am happy to command the lane changes with the turn signal. All auto lane change is saves you the trouble of doing that. Not worth $6K. The actual useful feature for some people is auto-park, for those who are not comfortable with parallel parking. But it has its issues too and you can usually do it faster if you are skilled. Many cars have auto-park and they don't charge nearly $6K for it if not hardware additions are needed. (It is hard to price as it usually comes only in a package with most cars.)

If you believe in FSD, just buy TSLA stock, you will make much more from that if they deliver, and you will be able to afford the higher price (if it is actually higher) of FSD after they deliver. Yes, it might be lower, if there is competition from another player pushing the price down.

 

[soumak]

When FSD Beta becomes widespread - I predict there will be subscription EAP for $99/month and subscription FSD will be up $199/month.

There's some bone for us, peasants.

I’m good with this. I only need eap 3 or 4 times a year at most. I would be fine with paying $99/month for those travel months.

 

[MP3Mike]

I am happy to command the lane changes with the turn signal. All auto lane change is saves you the trouble of doing that.

No, auto lane change is more than that. It let's you command a lane change with the signal. Without it you essentially have to turn off AP, change lanes, and then re-engage AP.

 

[STBR0510]

I think the only option I wish I could buy or have included with my car and Autopilot is "Auto Lane Change". I just don't think EAP is worth $6,000, and FSD is now $15,000...get out here!

Does anyone think ALC will ever be included with basic AP one day? I need some hope, I can't be the only one that hopes this will be true someday.

Just buy FSD, trust me.

 

[Redman113]

Alas, I don't even like most of the features of EAP. I am happy to command the lane changes with the turn signal. All auto lane change is saves you the trouble of doing that. Not worth $6K. The actual useful feature for some people is auto-park, for those who are not comfortable with parallel parking. But it has its issues too and you can usually do it faster if you are skilled. Many cars have auto-park and they don't charge nearly $6K for it if not hardware additions are needed. (It is hard to price as it usually comes only in a package with most cars.)

If you believe in FSD, just buy TSLA stock, you will make much more from that if they deliver, and you will be able to afford the higher price (if it is actually higher) of FSD after they deliver. Yes, it might be lower, if there is competition from another player pushing the price down.

Yeah, makes sense to me. Just blows my mind that one feature (Auto lane change) is not standard.

 

[Redman113]

Just buy FSD, trust me.

Haha, I'd rather buy my son his first used car with that amount of money. Start them off with something small and old. That way he will gain an appreciation and be motivated for the better.

Plus, I'm thinking about getting a Model S very soon.

Good talk everyone, thanks!

 

[RoBoRaT]

Yeah, makes sense to me. Just blows my mind that one feature (Auto lane change) is not standard.

Tweet Elon, subscription $9.99 per month for Auto Lane Change.
If take rate is 100,000 subs, that's $1M money from the cloud in a month.

 

[Redman113]

Tweet Elon, subscription $9.99 per month for Auto Lane Change.
If take rate is 100,000 subs, that's $1M money from the cloud in a month.

LOL. I already tried

 

[CaseyL]

No, auto lane change is more than that. It let's you command a lane change with the signal. Without it you essentially have to turn off AP, change lanes, and then re-engage AP.

Yes. This is the one feature that helps sell EAP or FSD.

Tell the car to change lanes and it does. It will wait if necessary until the situation allows it. It checks for other cars in the blind spot. If some behind you in the desired lane speeds up, the car moves back to the original lane.

It takes the stress (and the human risk) out of lane changes.

 

[AmpManMYP]

No, auto lane change is more than that. It let's you command a lane change with the signal. Without it you essentially have to turn off AP, change lanes, and then re-engage AP.

Particularly aggravating as there is no 'Resume' function for either AP or even Cruise Control...

I mean every rinky dink car I've driven for the last 20 years has had Resume.

 

[glide]

I think the only option I wish I could buy or have included with my car and Autopilot is "Auto Lane Change". I just don't think EAP is worth $6,000, and FSD is now $15,000...get out here!

Does anyone think ALC will ever be included with basic AP one day? I need some hope, I can't be the only one that hopes this will be true someday.

Yes. It’s included in AP1

 

[AmpManMYP]

Yes. It’s included in AP1

Which is in exactly zero Model Y's...

 

[STBR0510]

Particularly aggravating as there is no 'Resume' function for either AP or even Cruise Control...

I mean every rinky dink car I've driven for the last 20 years has had Resume.

Don't need resume. All you do is press down on the control stock once and there you go.

 

[TSteve]

Don't need resume. All you do is press down on the control stock once and there you go.

Is this a setting someplace? I usually have to double press to get it to resume.

 

[bradtem]

No, auto lane change is more than that. It let's you command a lane change with the signal. Without it you essentially have to turn off AP, change lanes, and then re-engage AP.

Sorry, I was thinking of Nav on Autopilot, which does lane changes without me commanding it. I turn that off, I don't like it, nor do I like it handling highway to highway exchanges. Had to intervene on merges and don't like intervening at that speed in a tricky situation.

But yes, of the EAP/FSD features, the manually commanded auto lane change is useful, as can be auto-park. The rest don't appeal to me. As such the price of the package (even at $6K) is extreme. When I bought my car, you had to pay for AP (and you got EAP.)

 

[STBR0510]

Is this a setting someplace? I usually have to double press to get it to resume.

Nope. Now we are talking model Y and 3 using Basic AP. When changing lanes you can turn your indicator on which disables AP but keeps cruise on, make your lane change and then press down on control stock to reactivate AP.