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Will battery issues Kill the Electric car?

Discussion in 'Battery Discussion' started by vfx, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. vfx

    vfx Well-Known Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    CA CA
    Tesla local rag
    News & Culture | Will battery issues kill the electric car?

    This article is all over the place with little news but the last paragraph
    I was moved by WKTEC and can agree to the term "activist" but as Chris Paine said, "People take from the film what they want."
    The film speads blame all around. This author chose the batteries to blame. And fails to note that the batteries in the EV1 are at least three technology(s) ago.
  2. Brent

    Brent Member

    Apr 18, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    To repeat the obvious, if gasoline cost $20 per gallon, one might be delighted with an electric car having any kind of range. I'm not sure clunky batteries will kill the electric car as much as save personal transportation from returning to the horse and buggy.
  3. Joseph

    Joseph Member

    Nov 30, 2007
    South Florida
    #3 Joseph, Apr 8, 2009
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2009
    "The filmmaker offered an elaborate conspiracy theory involving oil companies, but the truth is that clunky inefficient batteries did the electric car in."

    Obviously this person did not see the film.

    Obviously this person has never driven an electric car.

    Obviously - seeing how the reporter writes this in his/her final paragrpah - this reporter has no idea what she/he is talking about.

    The batteries in 90s EVs weren't perfect, but they definitely did not kill the cars. Toyota and GM and Honda and Ford had perfectly capable NiMH cars. The batteries themselves were ok. Now....CARB, consumers, cost, automakers, "big oil," that's another story.
  4. Cobos

    Cobos S60 Owner since 2013 - sold, S85D owner since 2017

    Jun 22, 2007
    Oslo, Norway
    I think Brent has a good point. My impression has always been that the gasoline supply is a lot more fragile then we think. If oil is going to $200 a barrel and it seems at least for the short term when the recession ends that is likely. I can see just here in Norway they are cutting down on all investments in the oil sector, so when the recession do ends demand will go up and supply will take another 1-3 years before it can properly match.

    A $6/gallon means people will drive less, BUT it also mean gasoline stations will go out of business. And that will kill the easy availability of gasoline, suddenly you have to queue and drive further and further for your fillups. We saw early tendencies for this with gasoline at just $4/gallon...

  5. doug

    doug Administrator / Head Moderator

    Nov 28, 2006
    SF Bay Area
    IIRC, the film declared the batteries as innocent.
  6. mpt

    mpt Electrics are back

    Oct 15, 2008
    Warren, New Jersey, United States
    I still hold big oil to blame but; WKtEC? did absolve the batteries; Ed. Begley's RAV EV seems to be fine.

    Just around the corner though are battery enhancements that will make other technologies look absurd. Is this the end of the road for Hydrogen? - News - PlanetTesla

    Just another ill researched article looking to grab readership. :mad:

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