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I was under the impression that it used BTLE to work (a) only when you are close by (not like the 10 meters away the current fobs work sometimes) and (b) to not interfere with normal BT applications. Can BTLE be used separately?Why would it need BTLE? The battery is obviously large enough to power bluetooth for years, unless it requires the car to be awake to use. I can wake the car remotely now so sleeping doesn't shut down all communication.
Why would it need BTLE? The battery is obviously large enough to power bluetooth for years, unless it requires the car to be awake to use. I can wake the car remotely now so sleeping doesn't shut down all communication.
BTLE describes the whole protocol stack that's related to but not the same as full power Bluetooth. It was made to be more power efficient, hence the name, but you can implement it on anything
In the same way, you use contactless payments on a credit card terminal. Just wave your phone over it and boom you pay for your items. In this case, you open your car and maybe even start it as well?
As an owner of X, I can't emphasize how important the fob is because of our automatic/motorized doors. Without automatic doors I understand it might work. On the X? No thanks please keep the fob.BTLE isn't necessary for the car, it's necessary for the phone side of things. BTLE can be run continuously without draining the phone battery. This makes it possible to use the phone as a keyless fob. Just walk up to the car with your phone in your pocket or bag, and the car unlocks, etc. BTLE also establishes connections faster than "normal" Bluetooth.
Without BTLE, you either need to put up with your phone draining quickly (and laggy unlocking) or you need to pull your phone out to tell the car to unlock.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Tesla add this to the S and X. Will reduce costs (eliminate fob costs), while being more convenient for owners (it's a rare tesla owner that doesn't have a smartphone on them all the time, and no fob is one less thing for them to carry).
That's a good question but I'd think it already works since they don't have a practical keyfob.Have we heard from any of the existing owners wether or not this works yet in the Model 3?
I don't see why both wouldn't work at the same time.As an owner of X, I can't emphasize how important the fob is because of our automatic/motorized doors. Without automatic doors I understand it might work. On the X? No thanks please keep the fob.
Thanks!Don't know how accurate this was, but FWIW it was reported already last year that Tesla moved to BLE keyfobs in existing cars.
The person I quoted mentioned elimination of the fob.That's a good question but I'd think it already works since they don't have a practical keyfob.
I don't see why both wouldn't work at the same time.
Thanks!
Agree, FOB for opening/closing doors and summons (and Easter egg feature launching) is great and much easier than opening my iPhone.As an owner of X, I can't emphasize how important the fob is because of our automatic/motorized doors. Without automatic doors I understand it might work. On the X? No thanks please keep the fob.
Correct. It's kind of like the smart locks that use BT LE from Kwikset Kevo and August. However having owned a Kevo it doesn't work that great. For example, you are supposed to touch the lock and it will automatically unlock when your phone is close by (inside your pocket or purse), but it's slow (wait 3 second or so) and sometimes takes 2 tries or more to unlock. Hopefully the one in Tesla works better.So am I understanding this correctly that your smartphone in hand or pocket or purse, etc will allow the car to unlock without touching the smartphone?
If that is the case I'd be happy with leaving the fob behind,,,,,,,,I just don't want to unlock the phone, open the app, choose unlock, yes all the time
As an owner of X, I can't emphasize how important the fob is because of our automatic/motorized doors. Without automatic doors I understand it might work. On the X? No thanks please keep the fob.