Will NEM 3 impact NEM 2 and 1?

[Merrill]

That is why no matter how many folks ask, for calif. at least, it seems the end result is no. I know this concerns me with it looks like having to use the batteries to meet the SGIP requirement, but in the winter, not having enough solar to come close to recharging if I try to use during the peak high priced times.

So for folks who have gas for heating, its a non issue. But for folks like me, who have heat pumps, its a big deal.

I agree with you, do not understand why you cannot charge Powerwall’s from the grid. It’s not like your getting the electricity for free you still pay for it weather it goes to your house or your Powerwall.

 

[miimura]

I was required to transition from NEM1 to NEM2 when I increased the size of my solar system.
I'm assuming this is not considered as an "election" and I have 20 years on NEM2 from the day I received PTO for the larger solar system, correct?

I would not count on your 20 years restarting with NEM 2. You elected to change your solar system, so I would assume that your 20 years is only guaranteed until the end of your NEM 1 20 year period. You will probably be forced into the open NEM tariff in effect at that time.

As with all things PG&E, never assume that any alternative that works in your favor will be the actual policy.

 

[h2ofun]

I would not count on your 20 years restarting with NEM 2. You elected to change your solar system, so I would assume that your 20 years is only guaranteed until the end of your NEM 1 20 year period. You will probably be forced into the open NEM tariff in effect at that time.

As with all things PG&E, never assume that any alternative that works in your favor will be the actual policy.

No way would I bet on any 20 year anything with laws and politics involved.

 

[Ampster]

PG&E's SGIP department response:
"Thanks for reaching out to us. You may charge your battery from the grid.

Yes you can, but you may be limited by Tesla's software and once you get past that you may jeopardize your Investment Tax Credit if you took the credit. Powerwalls installed in facilities without solar are enabled by Tesla to charge from the grid because that is the only source available.

 

[RKCRLR]

Yes you can, but you may be limited by Tesla's software and once you get past that you may jeopardize your Investment Tax Credit if you took the credit. Powerwalls installed in facilities without solar are enabled by Tesla to charge from the grid because that is the only source available.

I'm not concerned about the ITC since I'm not taking it for the powerwalls. But taking this up with Tesla is probably a bridge too far.

 

[Ampster]

But taking this up with Tesla is probably a bridge too far.

it is worth a try. I do not remember if you got SGIP money and if so, that would be an additional restriction.

 

[RKCRLR]

it is worth a try. I do not remember if you got SGIP money and if so, that would be an additional restriction.

I got SGIP money but that is one of the reasons I contacted the SGIP department about this.
I might bring it up with Tesla but right now I have bigger fish to fry with them.

 

[h2ofun]

I got SGIP money but that is one of the reasons I contacted the SGIP department about this.
I might bring it up with Tesla but right now I have bigger fish to fry with them.

I will continue to try the line that since the SGIP money means no ITC, why not?

 

[Ampster]

the SGIP money means no ITC, why not?

Two different issues. From where do you assume that SGIP money would not allow one to take ITC? Don't tell me a little bird told you?

 

[h2ofun]

Two different issues. From where do you assume that SGIP money would not allow one to take ITC? Don't tell me a little bird told you?

My installer company. Meaning, if you get 100% SPIG, I hear no ITC. But as one person posted, his contract was cost - ITC, so his check will be 26% less and he can take the ITC. I have no idea why the differences. Will see what folks do on their taxes this year, and their tax folks, to see what folks have done.

 

[Ampster]

You are talking about a very specific case and it has nothing to do with the title of this thread. I am sorry I got suckered into responding.

 

[jjrandorin]

My installer company. Meaning, if you get 100% SPIG, I hear no ITC. But as one person posted, his contract was cost - ITC, so his check will be 26% less and he can take the ITC. I have no idea why the differences. Will see what folks do on their taxes this year, and their tax folks, to see what folks have done.

I realize you are singularly focused on the equity and resiliency SGIP, but your posts on anything to do with costs, SGIP etc, get pretty confusing because they pretty much ONLY assume that very specific set of circumstances, which "most" dont have here.

So, when you make general statements but make assumptions that have to do with equity and resiliency, it confuses people. As for myself, I realized a long time ago that almost all of the statements you make regarding this stuff come through that lens, but its definitely is confusing for many.

 

[h2ofun]

I realize you are singularly focused on the equity and resiliency SGIP, but your posts on anything to do with costs, SGIP etc, get pretty confusing because they pretty much ONLY assume that very specific set of circumstances, which "most" dont have here.

So, when you make general statements but make assumptions that have to do with equity and resiliency, it confuses people. As for myself, I realized a long time ago that almost all of the statements you make regarding this stuff come through that lens, but its definitely is confusing for many.

It is the only set of glasses I have. I am totally confused by all the other options, but since they do not apply to me, I just stay confused.
Still have no idea if this will even work out for me. Still in holding pattern

 

[Ampster]

I am totally confused by all the other options, but since they do not apply to me, I just stay confused.

Try to remember the advice of @jjrandorin and perhaps preface your comments with some kind of qualifier because very few people on this forum are going to be affected by the things that affect your installation.

 

[h2ofun]

Try to remember the advice of @jjrandorin and perhaps preface your comments with some kind of qualifier because very few people on this forum are going to be affected by the things that affect your installation.

I seem to have some many unique things in my life