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Will Older Vehicles get the Smart Phone-Based Unlocking System?

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by ⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. ⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️

    ⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️ Fritterer and waster of hours in an off hand wayer

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    Tesla releases new Model 3 pictures to show its key card and iPhone-based unlocking system

    I've been wishing for this feature ever since I got my car. I would love not worrying about carrying my fob around. I can't rely on the app because my car doesn't get cell phone service inside the parking garage at work. It seems like it would just be a software upgrade. Does anyone know, or have an idea, if this could be implemented in older cars with just a software upgrade?
     
  2. patrick40363

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    I like it the way it is.
     
  3. Max*

    Max* Charging

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    Do the older cars have BTLE? If not, it's not just a software update.
     
  4. supratachophobia

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    No. The newer entry is based off of Bluetooth.
     
  5. Max*

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    No. It's BLE (woops, added a T in the previous post) - Bluetooth Low Energy, which is different than vanilla Bluetooth (newer for one thing, but there are a lot of differences actually)

    Tesla Model 3 ditches fob for keycard and Bluetooth smartphone access


    BLE has been out for a while (circa 2011), but not everything on a Tesla is up-to-date and high tech.

    And from this post, they started shipping keyfobs capable of BLE in 2015: New key fob coming with Bluetooth LE?

    And then there's this post from Ingineer -- New key fob coming with Bluetooth LE?
    As of end of 2016, the X uses BLE, the S still does not.


    So my question still stands, does the Model S have BLE or not? If not, I don't think they can send an OTA update for this feature.
     
  6. Qbenjamin

    Qbenjamin Frugal But Classy!

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    The Tesla app has let me down on two occasions where it was 95F+ outside, needless to say, I always carry my fob now.
     
  7. AmpedRealtor

    AmpedRealtor Well-Known Member

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    Since a recent software update I have a new "Passive Entry" setting in my vehicle controls. It's greyed out, however, so I cannot change the setting.
     
  8. martinicus

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    Same. Anyone know why it is grayed out?
     
  9. mazeminder

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    Put your foot on the brake to activate it. It's explained in this video (jump forward to 6-minute mark):



    Its *not* a phone-based entry system
     
  10. brucet999

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    Before you get too excited about the TSA lock making it safe to leave your laptop in this thing, all it takes is a ballpoint pen thrust into the zipper and thieves get access to your bag in 10 seconds, lock or no lock.
     

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