I'm not saying they're better cars, just that they have better performance. Performance models should always prioritize performance over anything else, and the Model Y Performance is beat on that metric.
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Will Tesla Update Electric Motors This Year?
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exxxviii
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Agree. I think of the quicker cars like the Taycan, Lucid Air Dream, Audi e-tron GT, MB AMG EQS, Rivian, BMW i4, EV6 GB, GV60 Performance, Ioniq 5 N, etc. as niche cars since they serve a limited market due to high price, limited range, or both. Moderate cost + >250 miles is more of the broad market, everyman category. And in that category, MYP and M3P stand alone. (My caveat: 250 miles is my personal threshold that I set when shopping EVs for enough range to have plenty of safety net and convenience for everyday use.)
Yes, I agree.
The Model Y Performance honestly has the best of both worlds. 300+ miles of range and top tier performance, couple that with the tech, supercharging network and sub 60k price tag it's a no brainer.
Nubo
Test Mule
Of course it depends on what one considers an "improvement". Do I want my car to be quicker than any other vehicle, or do I want an *appropriate* and useable level of quickness? I remember seeing a Ferrari less than a mile from the dealership, that had split the front of the car, all the way to the windshield, around a light pole. It was far too quick for that driver. But it sure was quick for a few seconds. The thought of our roads being chock-full of supercars is frightening, to be honest.
ZenRockGarden
Active Member
If you need bragging rights and want to play bench-racer, the Plaid Model S is your car, and is where further absurd-acceleration focus could go if/when needed, until the Roadster arrives to clean everyone's clock.
The Model Y is FINE - it has more than enough power for it's market segment. It sells without any need to be 0.2 seconds faster than the 200-mile-range Kia.
The Model Y is FINE - it has more than enough power for it's market segment. It sells without any need to be 0.2 seconds faster than the 200-mile-range Kia.
exxxviii
Member
What’s your definition of “appropriate and useable level of quickness?“ And what kind of Ferrari was it? High likelihood that the Model Y Performance is quicker than that Ferrari was. There are only a few quicker than 3.5 seconds.
TomB985
Member
I don't need a faster car.
But there are any number of ways the motors can be made better. Smaller, lighter, more efficient, etc. Those little things add up to a big competitive advantage when looking at the entire system. Other manufacturers have been doing this to ICEs for generations.
Watts_Up
Well-Known Member
I think people would be more interested into:
Will Tesla Update Battery Range This Year?
Note: In fact, would this be easily feasible, such as switching to 4680 Cells?
Nubo
Test Mule
For me, the MYLR in "chill mode" is about right.
A red one
You're probably right; this was early 1990s as I was driving my new Miata home from the dealership. Thankfully today's cars make such power more tractable, but still I think the power available in Tesla's lineup is already a bit too much for a lot of drivers. Surely there's no need for Tesla to engage in a power "arms race" from where things stand now. Providing high levels of power was important for Tesla to dispel the public mindset of 15 years ago that EVs were slow, lumbering "punishment cars". But that mission has long since been accomplished.
I feel like there have been some subtle hints at this. I'm guessing it will mostly be about efficient, but maybe a small performance boost too. It has been a while since anything changed, and I'm sure they've been working on things.
exxxviii
Member
No doubt. Back in the early 90s, I don’t think there were any Ferraris as quick as a MYLR in chill. But traction control back then didn’t exist either.For me, the MYLR in "chill mode" is about right.
A red one
You're probably right; this was early 1990s
TomB985
Member
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Chill mode delivers a 0-60 time of around 7.6 seconds. Modern minivans are quicker than that.
ZenRockGarden
Active Member
4680 cells exist in the form on the MYAWD. It has _LESS_ range than the MYLR. A breakthru would involve simply matching existing range
Lets now eliminate the MYP and introduce a MY Plaid. The MY Plaid will the real difference in the market and with the recent price reduction, there is room for the upgraded component costs and still be in line with the EV6 GT. This MY version will blow it away all of the competition in this space with what Tesla does at the Plaid level and still keep blowing the competition with the best range. Btw, I have the pre price reduction MYP, love the vehicle, but at the number I paid I would love it to be a Plaid version. Imagine full performance Plaid version: " a tri-motor system and all-wheel drive that features torque vectoring and three independent carbon-sleeved rotors as well as powertrain and battery technologies that make for “unrivaled performance, range, and efficiency,”
This version might kill me.
This version might kill me.
ucmndd
Well-Known Member
What possible reason would Tesla have to compete with themselves and give people a reason to skip the much more expensive and profitable S/X?Lets now eliminate the MYP and introduce a MY Plaid. The MY Plaid will the real difference in the market and with the recent price reduction, there is room for the upgraded component costs and still be in line with the EV6 GT. This MY version will blow it away all of the competition in this space with what Tesla does at the Plaid level and still keep blowing the competition with the best range. Btw, I have the pre price reduction MYP, love the vehicle, but at the number I paid I would love it to be a Plaid version. Imagine full performance Plaid version: " a tri-motor system and all-wheel drive that features torque vectoring and three independent carbon-sleeved rotors as well as powertrain and battery technologies that make for “unrivaled performance, range, and efficiency,”
This version might kill me.
Not seeing a lot of business sense in this suggestion.
The MSP and MXP are very different and for different wallets than a MYPlaid would be. I paid $72.5K for my MYP, ok ha ha I know, but imagine that today for a MY Plaid at say $82K and actually getting Plaid level components. Wow. No competition, MSP is a top sports sedan, MXP is a large SUV/GullWing doors, the MP Plaid would be a lesser SUV Plaid than the X Plaid, def have to tweak that difference. I see your point, but would have loved more for what I paid, but Im ok.
ZenRockGarden
Active Member
ZenRockGarden
Active Member
Lets now eliminate the MYP and introduce a MY Plaid. The MY Plaid will the real difference in the market and with the recent price reduction, there is room for the upgraded component costs and still be in line with the EV6 GT. This MY version will blow it away all of the competition in this space with what Tesla does at the Plaid level and still keep blowing the competition with the best range. Btw, I have the pre price reduction MYP, love the vehicle, but at the number I paid I would love it to be a Plaid version. Imagine full performance Plaid version: " a tri-motor system and all-wheel drive that features torque vectoring and three independent carbon-sleeved rotors as well as powertrain and battery technologies that make for “unrivaled performance, range, and efficiency,”
This version might kill me.
There is a plaid. It's the Model X Plaid. It's stupid fast. For those who need to bench race mini-vans, you're all set.
Watts_Up
Well-Known Member
I think Tesla tries to avoid the Osborne effect and limit the 4680 Cells capacity for now.
The announced plan during the battery day was to increase the battery range to 500 miles.
Tesla Model Y With 500-Mile Range Could Already Be Here
There could already be Tesla Model Ys on the road with a potential for 500 miles of range, now that the 4680 cell is finally starting to ship.
www.forbes.com
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