Will the Tesla 3: be 20%, 15%, or 10% shorter in length than the Tesla S?

[stopcrazypp]

I could also see that, except they may not be able to use the "no one was ordering it" excuse like they did with the S40..... Ugh, this "waiting and speculating" is killing me.

S40 was discontinued almost a year after production started and even then, the people who ordered still got the cars they were promised.

 

[NeverFollow]

>> The more interesting question is if Tesla might make a model to compete with the E-Class, 5 series a A6.
>> Especially if the Model S gets bigger and more luxury to compete more directly with the S-class, A8, and 7-series.
>>
>> I could definitely see a sedan lineup like.
>>
>> $30k Entry level; CLA, A3 equivalent
>> $40k Model 3; C-Class, 3 series, A4 equivalent
>> $50k Mid Level; E-Class, 5 series, A6 equivalent
>> $80k Model S; S-Class, 7 series, A8 equivalent

pr0teu5, I agree comparing only size was very vague.

- I wonder also why using the term "20%",
as it could be related to size, length, weight, power, price...

- I would I prefer to define a car by it's category like when renting a car:

Compact (Nissan Versa Note or similar)
Intermediate (Toyota Corolla or similar)
Standard (Chrysler 200 or similar)
Full Size (Nissan Altima or similar)


We only know that the base Model 3 would be 50% of
a Tesla 70 price while offering a similar millage.

Using the Audi A4 as comparison, is also interesting:
- a base Audi A4 sedan costs $38,250 (including delivery),and
- a base BMW 320i sedan costs $34,150 (including delivery)

The Model 3's is quoted $35,000 base price. Including delivery of $1200,
- a base Tesla 3 (hatch back?) would cost $36,200 (before incentives).

However, in general, Electric or Hybrid cars have an additional premium cost
of about $5,000 to $10,000 compare to the ICE (internal combustion engine) model.

- Nissan Versa starts at $12,000, and Leaf starts at $29,000
- VW Golf starts at $18,000 and a VW e-Golf starts at $29,000

So I was first thinking to compare the Tesla 3 to the BMW i3 (because of the -20% size)
however the BMW i3 costs $42,000 and offers about 80 miles.

Or to compare the Tesla 3 to the Audi A3, which price starts at $31,000.

Now, comparing the Tesla 3, both size and price, to an Audi A4 or a BMW 320i is something I didn't thought.

I can't wait to know more about the Tesla 三

 

[pr0teu5]

>> The more interesting question is if Tesla might make a model to compete with the E-Class, 5 series a A6.
>> Especially if the Model S gets bigger and more luxury to compete more directly with the S-class, A8, and 7-series.
>>
>> I could definitely see a sedan lineup like.
>>
>> $30k Entry level; CLA, A3 equivalent
>> $40k Model 3; C-Class, 3 series, A4 equivalent
>> $50k Mid Level; E-Class, 5 series, A6 equivalent
>> $80k Model S; S-Class, 7 series, A8 equivalent

pr0teu5, I agree comparing only size was very vague.

- I wonder also why using the term "20%",
as it could be related to size, length, weight, power, price...

- I would I prefer to define a car by it's category like when renting a car:

Compact (Nissan Versa Note or similar)
Intermediate (Toyota Corolla or similar)
Standard (Chrysler 200 or similar)
Full Size (Nissan Altima or similar)


We only know that the base Model 3 would be 50% of
a Tesla 70 price while offering a similar millage.

Using the Audi A4 as comparison, is also interesting:
- a base Audi A4 sedan costs $38,250 (including delivery),and
- a base BMW 320i sedan costs $34,150 (including delivery)

The Model 3's is quoted $35,000 base price. Including delivery of $1200,
- a base Tesla 3 (hatch back?) would cost $36,200 (before incentives).

However, in general, Electric or Hybrid cars have an additional premium cost
of about $5,000 to $10,000 compare to the ICE (internal combustion engine) model.

- Nissan Versa starts at $12,000, and Leaf starts at $29,000
- VW Golf starts at $18,000 and a VW e-Golf starts at $29,000

So I was first thinking to compare the Tesla 3 to the BMW i3 (because of the -20% size)
however the BMW i3 costs $42,000 and offers about 80 miles.

Or to compare the Tesla 3 to the Audi A3, which price starts at $31,000.

Now, comparing the Tesla 3, both size and price, to an Audi A4 or a BMW 320i is something I didn't thought.

I can't wait to know more about the Tesla 三

The thing you have to remember is that the ~20% reduction is a reduction in volume not a reduction in length. A ~20% reduction in volume equals a ~7% reduction in length. This puts the Model 3 in line with the A4, 3-series, and C-class size wise.

As for the general price premiums for electric vehicles. You have to understand that the other companies right now don't have the economies of scale that would allow for the production of a low cost electric vehicle that is cost competitive with the ICE counterparts with the same features for the same price.

 

[plug]

Phooey - this thread is disheartening. I assumed it would be -10% in length or roughly the same as my old M3. The current M3/M4 is too big for me.

 

[gregincal]

Phooey - this thread is disheartening. I assumed it would be -10% in length or roughly the same as my old M3. The current M3/M4 is too big for me.

I used to have a rule that I'd never buy a car more than 180". I had a BMW 3 series back when they fit that rule and then an Audi A3. However, I just couldn't resist the Model S and broke my rule big time even though it just barely fits in my garage. I'm looking forward to downsizing to the Model 3, even if it turns out to be a bit larger than my old rule.

 

[igotzzoom]

I'm thinking it'll probably be around 184" long, give or take. To reiterate, as noted, the "20% smaller" is in reference to footprint (W x L) not linear length.