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Will you label your car a hybrid?

Johnwill

Member
May 25, 2014
74
1
Auckland, New Zealand
LPG cars need a sticker to warn emergency personnel to be careful and treat a damaged vehicle accordingly. With EVs and hybrids there is a high voltage danger that isn't present in a pure ICE car. How do you think you would feel if the jaws of life cut through a HV power cable and injured the rescuer and the victim?

I think you would feel much worse if they cut through a petrol line.

It can't once your air bags deploy the battery pack circuit breaker cuts of the power to the rest of the car.

If there is no heat or spark involved then cutting a petrol line is far less spectacular than short circuiting high current DC. It's a good idea to warn emergency services of an unfamiliar hazard in the event that safety mechanisms may not have worked.

One day BEVs will be that common that all emergency personal will have had training to deal with the specific dangers. In the mean time a sticker that says "Hey I'm different to an ICE" can't be bad.
 

TesAus

Member
Mar 4, 2014
870
121
Sydney, Australia
On a separate note it looks as if RMS may offer a lower motor vehicle tax rate for low emission vehicles. Tesla is not currently on the list, but should qualify as it is 5 green star rated. I have sent RMS a query to see if they will add it to the list - I'll let you all know the response.

Ok update on this one. I just had a call from the RMS policy officer and she confirmed that the Model S would currently qualify for the lower tax rate based upon it's green vehicle guide star rating, but needs to be added to the list of eligible vehicles. She did also note that she is expecting a change to the eligibility criteria for the lower tax rate which will be based upon CO2 emissions rather than the green vehicle guide rating. This should mean that it would again be eligible, but the new regime has yet to be confirmed. I think this is what one of the other posts might be referring to?

She undertook to get back to me when there is any further advice.

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By the way I have passed the details to Stone in case Tesla want to officially pursue getting the model S on the list.
 
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Higgy

Member
Mar 20, 2014
369
0
Melbourne Australia
If you had this model then labelling as a hybrid would be OK.

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I stole this from
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/show...ntrol-Concerns?p=751651&viewfull=1#post751651
 
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Gabz

Member
Jul 28, 2014
232
3
Newcastle NSW
Ok update on this one. I just had a call from the RMS policy officer and she confirmed that the Model S would currently qualify for the lower tax rate based upon it's green vehicle guide star rating, but needs to be added to the list of eligible vehicles. She did also note that she is expecting a change to the eligibility criteria for the lower tax rate which will be based upon CO2 emissions rather than the green vehicle guide rating. This should mean that it would again be eligible, but the new regime has yet to be confirmed. I think this is what one of the other posts might be referring to?

She undertook to get back to me when there is any further advice.

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By the way I have passed the details to Stone in case Tesla want to officially pursue getting the model S on the list.

Thanks for the update I also enquired (via a web ticket) to why I wasn't receiving the discount. I'm yet to hear back from them.
 

Gabz

Member
Jul 28, 2014
232
3
Newcastle NSW
had an update from other EV drivers in vic it seems that vicroads expects the manufacturers to supply the EV stickers. and not a single person has been able to get it from vicroads. the EV trial people got some made up and might have some spare and the ATA group also got some made up.

so please advise Tesla you require the stickers so they can make sure you don't get defected as you drive them out of the show room.
 

mike_j

Member
Mar 31, 2014
151
41
Melbourne
I can't workout how the Registration costs listed on the website are calculated. Registering a new car in a 'high risk' postcode seems to cost $757.70, but the Tesla website lists $788 - and it should be eligible for a $100 discount on top of that.

Does the amount listed for the other states match the statutory costs?

When the time comes for delivery (eventually...) will they adjust the price based on actual rego costs or is it fixed?
 

Gabz

Member
Jul 28, 2014
232
3
Newcastle NSW
Saw another Nissan Leaf today in Victoria. Again, no EV sticker (although maybe it was the same one).

the difference is a leaf won't beat the SS commodores of the line the same way a telsa will shame him (not that any drivers here would upset highway patrol) ... and the lack of a ev sticker is a fast way for him/her to get your car towed and impounded.
 

joninmelbourne

Solid Black S60 new face
Jun 29, 2016
146
25
Melbourne
I emailed VicRoads and got the following reply:
Hi Jon,

Thank you for your email about registration renewal fees for electric powered vehicle. My name is Vincent and I am able to advise you.

The electric powered vehicles do receive the same discount on the registration renewal. Electric vehicles like the Nissan Leaf do get a $100 discount on the registration renewal. This is provided in the legislation.

I hope that this information has addressed your enquiry.
 

alpal

Member
Nov 19, 2015
340
49
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
I argued with four senior vic roads people when I xfered my rego from nsw to vic when I bought my Tessy and failed to get the discount. I could have fought on but, hey, an incredible incentivating $100 discount when I bought my ~$200,000 electric car just didn't seem worth it.

When I see the incentives and discounts available in other countries to purchase evs, I know Australia isn't anywhere near serious yet.

Anyone who owns a Tesla here should be applauded for trying to change the current (forgive the pun) attitudes!
 

rowdy

Member
Jan 18, 2016
205
149
Australia
I renewed my rego to Vic yesterday and enquired about the $100 discount to be rudely told "NO it's NOT a hybrid" (no argument there, but ....).

As far as I know it's automatic with Vicroads. I've never contacted them about getting a discount but just checked my renewal and it's $100 less. It doesn't explicitly show a $100 discount being applied, just the $ value of the registration is less.

There's a line under the price breakdown which says "The hybrid/electric powered vehicle registration discount has already been deducted from your registration fee on this notice".
 

Nickdp

Member
Feb 7, 2015
126
90
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
it seems that your luck with Vicroads depends on who attends to your query. Following Jon's post (PM received - thanks) I again followed up with Vicroads and finally got the piece of legislation in question, reg 102(3)(b) "If a motor vehicle is a hybrid vehicle or an electric powered passenger car, the fee to be paid for registration or renewal of registration of the vehicle is ... the fee that would otherwise be payable under section 9 of the Act or Schedule 3, less $100"

ROAD SAFETY (VEHICLES) REGULATIONS 2009 - REG 102 Concessional registration fees for other vehicles
 

Xwing

Member
Dec 29, 2015
102
18
Melbourne Victoria Australia
My model s was delivered a couple of weeks back and has the ev sticker on the plates and the $100 discount applied. Not that I can drive it yet since the S60 is still not able to be registered in Oz. I've been assured it will be some time next week.
 

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