TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC

Windshield wipers are horrible, and arguably dangerous

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by matto, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. zhu-

    zhu- Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2018
    Messages:
    250
    Location:
    NJ
    My auto wipers are also pretty terrible. Sometimes when I get into the car it will go into max speed mode with only a few drops on the windshield. When I'm driving, it has never wiped fast enough. It seems like the speed in auto mode is somewhere between the first and second manual setting - which is not enough in the rain. I always have to manually adjust the speed setting to 2 or 3.

    Just had a mobile ranger come out last week and he said if there's an issue with the sensor they'll have to replace the entire windshield because it's permanently glued on.
     
    • Like x 1
  2. scott8659

    scott8659 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2018
    Messages:
    45
    Location:
    Westerville, OH
    Don’t hold your breath waiting for a fix. This has been an issue with Tesla vehicles since they decided to ditch the actual rain sensor every other car uses. It’s been over 2 years and they still suck. Classic example of over-engineering. As others have pointed out this is compounded on the 3 due to the poor ergonomics of the controls. Even using the single press shortcut requires taking your eyes of the road to make a change.
     
    • Like x 2
  3. SalisburySam

    SalisburySam Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2018
    Messages:
    59
    Location:
    Salisbury, North Carolina
    Same experience as @KenF: Auto wipers work pretty well for me but only during daylight. At night, I have to revert to one of the Manual settings. Happened again last night in a 60-mile drive with moderate drizzle. Wipers in Auto didn’t come on at all. Use first and second Manual settings but from time to time tried Auto again. Still nothing. I submitted a vocal bug report each time. I’m on 50.6 and windshield was clean except for the rain.
     
  4. F_T_K

    F_T_K Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Messages:
    51
    Location:
    Minnesota, USA
    I'm not a fan of the wipers on my Model 3. During our last couple snowfalls, the wipers would get caked with ice after 10 - 15 minutes of driving.

    The windshield glass goes down several inches below the dash. So the wipers sweep water/snow from the warm glass (where the defroster hits) onto the cold glass below, then it freezes up. I'm going to go through gallons of windshield washer fluid at this rate, just trying to keep the ice off the wipers.
     
    • Like x 1
  5. Electroman

    Electroman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    5,068
    Location:
    TX
    Wipers are very slow in the Auto setting. What I do is, press the left stalk to get one wipe and that also bring the wiper menu and I choose manual I or II.

    It is dangerous is a little dramatic.
     
    • Like x 2
  6. chronopc

    chronopc Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2017
    Messages:
    2,344
    Location:
    California
    I agree. The word I would use is annoying rather than dangerous.
     
    • Like x 2
  7. AmateurX

    AmateurX Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2018
    Messages:
    9
    Location:
    Detroit
    This is exactly what I was thinking: if I could make it more sensitive by a couple of "steps" I bet I could get the setting to where I like it.

    Typically I leave them in the OFF position and use the mist button when I need them in light rain/mist situations. When it's raining, I leave it Auto and push the mist button all the time. Every once in a while I feel like the system is learning how often it should wipe by how often I push the button, but that's probably just a placebo effect.

    There are times when the wipers go full-on crazy when there's no rain at all. Then I just say a few cuss words and turn them off.
     
    • Like x 3
  8. SigNC

    SigNC Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2017
    Messages:
    647
    Location:
    NC
    two things:
    1) it still sucks at night
    2) there is no startup algorithm to say "oh the car just started i probably can't see because rain has accumulated, let me wipe once and then figure out what speed I need" it just goes wide ass open for about 5 - 10 seconds. :)
     
    • Like x 1
    • Funny x 1
  9. mike123abc

    mike123abc Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2018
    Messages:
    169
    Location:
    Norman, OK
    The responsiveness needs to have a user adjust. But, I have found that the wipers are really marginal when they are working at the correct speed.
     
  10. alee

    alee Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2018
    Messages:
    38
    Location:
    New York, NY
    If the wiper control was on a physical stalk, I'd revise my opinion to be simply "annoying". Today, it's press a button to bring up a menu of wiper speeds, take your eyes off the road to hit an option, and hope it gives you the speed you want. There is no world where that's ok. esp. at highway speeds. Get it wrong, and you risk not seeing.

    I'm sticking with dangerous.
     
    • Like x 2
  11. Need

    Need Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2017
    Messages:
    1,731
    Location:
    SoCal
    I think someone suggested (in a different thread) using the single swipe/washer fluid button to control speed. Forgot the exact combo, but I think it was double tap once to turn on wipers to (slowest), double tap again (next speed), etc... and single tap (if wiper is on) to stop. Maybe triple taps to turn on wiper and set to Auto; single tap to stop. I thought that was really smart and intuitive and only require a software update.
     
    • Like x 1
  12. chronopc

    chronopc Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2017
    Messages:
    2,344
    Location:
    California
    Would be nice to control the speed of the wipers with voice commands too.
     
    • Like x 2
  13. novox77

    novox77 1.21 Gigawatts

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2017
    Messages:
    1,055
    Location:
    NH, MA
    Just to set things straight for people who don't yet own a Model 3, the wiper control IS on a physical stalk, and that button press does more than just bring up the wiper menu - it actually wipes the windshield. Pushing to the 2nd detent triggers wiper fluid and wipes.

    so you've never taken your eyes off the road at highway speeds to check your blind spot or look into the rear mirror, both of which are a longer glance away than your center screen? Would you consider that dangerous? How about changing a radio preset or toggling the A/C? Or putting in a CD or tape into the slot? Or use the cigarette lighter to light a smoke? How did we manage all this eyes-off-the-road activity in the past without crashing all over the place?

    The manual button on the stalk is exactly for those situations where you're in a tricky situation and you MUST have your eyes on the road. If there's no tricky situation to navigate, I challenge anyone to tell me they can't afford to ever take their eyes off the road. You've done this millions of times in regular ICE cars without realizing it.

    For me, dangerous wipers are ones that do a poor job clearing the obstruction. And in this thread, I see 2 distinct complaints with merit:

    1) Auto-wipe setting is erratic and not reliable
    2) The performance of the blades is subpar

    I've dealt with #1 via adaptation (reliance on manual button and interval setting). It's not ideal, but it's out of mind for me. #2 is likely fixable like it is for S/X with a higher-end Bosch (Icon) blade. I haven't tried the replacement on the 3, but I can attest that the Bosch Icons perform SO much better than the stock Bosch on Model S. The current stock 3 blades can't handle even the smallest amount of snow without streaking and clumping. However the stock 3 blades work just fine clearing rain, from a blade-to-glass perspective.
     
    • Like x 2
  14. super20g

    super20g Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2018
    Messages:
    350
    Location:
    United States
    I was thinking dangerous the other night when it was foggy and visibility was already not great. Then throw in heavy misting and the auto wipers were absolutely dangerous. Of course you could switch to a manual setting and be fine... But the auto wiper are crap at times...
     
  15. sharkless

    sharkless New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2018
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Winter Garden
    In my experience, the auto wipers work pretty well. For me, they're actually pretty sensitive and trigger almost too easily with a little Florida humidity condensing on the glass in the morning. Of course, this doesn't hurt anything except the cleanliness of the glass.

    Honestly though, I choose to leave the wipers off 99% of the time. I have a treatment on the glass (think Rain-X on steroids) that does an awesome job of keeping water off of the windshield even in pretty heavy rains. For extremely heavy rain, I'll turn them on manually. For medium rain/light rain at higher speeds (30+), the water runs right off the glass so well that I don't need the wipers. For medium/light rain at low speeds/stops, I just click the button on the end of the turn signal as needed.

    I agree that the word "dangerous" might be a bit much to describe this situation. At any time you can choose when to engage the wipers with a simple touch on the main screen. It's only dangerous if you drive in the rain without knowing how to operate the wipers in your car, which is a condition that applies to all vehicles. First-world problems. :)
     
    • Disagree x 1
  16. UngaBunga1989

    UngaBunga1989 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2018
    Messages:
    99
    Location:
    NY Metro Area, United States
    Mine have worked perfectly day and night and in rain of varied intensity. Sorry that some of you have had issues with it...
     
  17. Captbarret

    Captbarret Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2019
    Messages:
    8
    Location:
    Southington, CT
    I haven't recieved any software updates on the wipers that i know of. Would I been notified. But I do concur that the auto mode sucks
     
  18. almonroth

    almonroth New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2018
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Hood River, OR
    Adding to the chorus. This is the one feature on my Model 3 that makes me mad. With all the amazing tech in this mobile computer on wheels, somehow the auto wipers suck this badly. I think because of all the tech, it stands out as even more annoying. Eng has solved problems far more complicated than this, so hopefully they can turn their attention to the wipers soon? I’d take better sensitivity, but I’d much prefer it learned my preferred timing so it was tailored to me. That would be a rad feature.
     
  19. tornado

    tornado Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2012
    Messages:
    41
    Location:
    Seattle-Area
    My third Tesla, and agree - the auto-sensing on all three have sucked. Specifically agree about the 3's being worse since you have to take your eyes off everything to change it up. I too am in the Pac NW and with the intermittent rain we get here, it's a real PITA that the auto-sensing doesn't work better. The other "steps" for the wipers don't have enough gradients as others have mentioned. Why is this such rocket science for Tesla to figure out?
     
  20. MongMong

    MongMong New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2018
    Messages:
    4
    Location:
    San Francisco
    Mine used to be like this, but somehow stopped. I'm glad it has. It's still way too non-sensitive, I don't mind it as much but my wife cannot stand it. She wants it super sensitive as she finds it hard to drive in the night when it's raining. Really hoping we can configure the sensitivity of the auto wipers in the settings in a future OTA update.
     

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC