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This was a really thorough test. It looks like the Nokian wins for rolling resistance.
The reason why am posting this whole thread is so that people can give me their winter experience of last year with their tire choices that they finally settled on. Of course I expect some sort of cognitive dissonnwnve protection of poorer choices...
I'm looking to put tire on my car for mostly trips from SoCal to Mammoth with the bulk of the time in SoCal ( very few miles driven in Mammoth but the road is not well,plowed. Also for use in Colorado Vail....and as a former ASPEN Limo driver using Suburbans and Escalades in the winter....I was typically only booked for rides from Aspen to the Denver airport when it was so snowy that flights were canceled. There were many times when I had to drive in complete white out conditions using the rumble strip on the side of the road as a sort of driving by braille.
The full-size suburban was equipped with average quality winter tires. When it came time to purchase winter tires for my girlfriends (Tahoe size) Cadillac Escalade we went for the Hakkapelletta 7 with factory installed eco studs.
In Colorado the roads are not well taken care of compare to New England which is where. I owned a high performance racing snowboard company and drove most of my miles through snowstorms. In New England you can get by with 2 Wheel Drive and snow tires in an Audi. That's a lot more difficult to do in Colorado. The default for Colorado is four-wheel-drive with snow tires. I would shudder whenever I had to rent a 4 x 4 with all season tires in the snow.
On the way to pick up my girlfriends new snow tires everyone and asked if it was sliding through the stop signs it was glare ice everywhere. They melted the snow tires and we drove back. Everyone was still sliding into the intersections. We could drive like we were on dry roads. We tried to make the tires lose traction and they were tenacious. We even tried to accelerate hard and then slam on the brakes to try to engage the ABS, it would not even engage. I didn't want to try at higher speeds and more aggressively because I probably would've gotten a ticket.
After our first hour of driving on these tires we both looked each other in the face and said "oh my God you could climb trees with these things "
All that being said, now I need probably need a different kind of tire. I'm attracted to the Nokian Low rolling resistance, because it's already a difficult jump from the Rancho Santa Margarita supercharger to the Inyokern supercharger on the trip to Mammoth in a tesla 70 5D or 90 D model X. making the jump in the model X 75D with just slight speeding have the car asking me to slow down below 50 miles an hour to reach there. At that point I really had to shut down the heat.
My 90D will only give me 20 more miles of range and I certainly don't want to squander that with a high rolling resistance winter tire.
So , who bought the the WR and who bought the R2?
I saw Nordman ( nokian side brand with older tech ) they got very good reviews, but in recovering from a difficult slide situation ( in the above posted review) it wasn't so good. So I Ruled those out.
This was a really thorough test. It looks like the Nokian wins for rolling resistance.
The reason why am posting this whole thread is so that people can give me their winter experience of last year with their tire choices that they finally settled on. Of course I expect some sort of cognitive dissonnwnve protection of poorer choices...
I'm looking to put tire on my car for mostly trips from SoCal to Mammoth with the bulk of the time in SoCal ( very few miles driven in Mammoth but the road is not well,plowed. Also for use in Colorado Vail....and as a former ASPEN Limo driver using Suburbans and Escalades in the winter....I was typically only booked for rides from Aspen to the Denver airport when it was so snowy that flights were canceled. There were many times when I had to drive in complete white out conditions using the rumble strip on the side of the road as a sort of driving by braille.
The full-size suburban was equipped with average quality winter tires. When it came time to purchase winter tires for my girlfriends (Tahoe size) Cadillac Escalade we went for the Hakkapelletta 7 with factory installed eco studs.
In Colorado the roads are not well taken care of compare to New England which is where. I owned a high performance racing snowboard company and drove most of my miles through snowstorms. In New England you can get by with 2 Wheel Drive and snow tires in an Audi. That's a lot more difficult to do in Colorado. The default for Colorado is four-wheel-drive with snow tires. I would shudder whenever I had to rent a 4 x 4 with all season tires in the snow.
On the way to pick up my girlfriends new snow tires everyone and asked if it was sliding through the stop signs it was glare ice everywhere. They melted the snow tires and we drove back. Everyone was still sliding into the intersections. We could drive like we were on dry roads. We tried to make the tires lose traction and they were tenacious. We even tried to accelerate hard and then slam on the brakes to try to engage the ABS, it would not even engage. I didn't want to try at higher speeds and more aggressively because I probably would've gotten a ticket.
After our first hour of driving on these tires we both looked each other in the face and said "oh my God you could climb trees with these things "
All that being said, now I need probably need a different kind of tire. I'm attracted to the Nokian Low rolling resistance, because it's already a difficult jump from the Rancho Santa Margarita supercharger to the Inyokern supercharger on the trip to Mammoth in a tesla 70 5D or 90 D model X. making the jump in the model X 75D with just slight speeding have the car asking me to slow down below 50 miles an hour to reach there. At that point I really had to shut down the heat.
My 90D will only give me 20 more miles of range and I certainly don't want to squander that with a high rolling resistance winter tire.
So , who bought the the WR and who bought the R2?
I saw Nordman ( nokian side brand with older tech ) they got very good reviews, but in recovering from a difficult slide situation ( in the above posted review) it wasn't so good. So I Ruled those out.
