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Wipers won't freaking stop
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Next time the wipers go whacky, try capturing dashcam video for review. Esp. if it captures the same camera that triggers the wipers, it might show visual artifacts that the neural net mishandles. If the service folks are up to the task, they'd at least send the video and contemporary log data to the dev or QA team for analysis.
It'd be great if the car could capture the relevant image every time we press the manual wipe button, which is a signal for tuning the auto-wiper neural net.
Autosteer requires that the wipers be in Auto. So does cruise control. I had this problem tonight on a 25 mile drive. Couldn't use cruise control because the wipers kept going on a dry window and squeaking. It's not autosteer except that autosteer turns on auto wipers.
The wipers DO cover the cameras at the top center of the windshield. I tried using the washing feature and I manually wiped them down all without fixing the issue. This is definitely a auto-wiper issue which breaks the TACC and FSD features.Why? It’s not like the wipers are wiping the rain off of the cameras
It's not just you. Happen very often. The AI gets confused on many situations.
It's artificial intelligence so impossible to describe. See: https://www.cars.com/amp/articles/t...-neural-net-to-catch-raindrops-1420698555438/
The logic on my 2004 BMW is that it has a sensor that processes the data, sends it over the Internet to BMW's cloud processing data center in Munich, where it gets analyzed by artificial intelligence robots that ping weather satellites to determine whether it's ****ing raining...
Actually it's a sensor that gets blocked with water drops. The more it's blocked, the faster the wipers go. When you stop at a light, the wipers slow down.
And it does what you want 99.9% of the time.
I know the BMW logic. I have one too. The issue with BMW logic is refraction. Use a thicker aftermarket windshield and it is unable to detect rain. Happened to me. Had to go back and get an original BMW windshield for the rain sensor to work again.
I'm still on my first windshield, but it's true that windshields can be wear-and-tear parts.
Expect for when you need to run the wipers. It invariably requires dealing with the screen at some point.
At least until the Auto feature works well, I’d love an option to pin a wiper control card to be always open. That would make driving in wet weather easier.
I read ( eg unverified) that the camera it’s using is not focused on the windowsheild but is instead one the cameras used for driving. So it’s trying to detect rain drops without the ability to reallly see them.
Again: Tesla set out to reinvent the wheel. Most of the time they succeeded in improving it, but this is one of the misses.
I did use the Dash Cam feature to record the windshield condition when it auto wipes and when I had to override, and I seriously can't see any difference in the camera views. There are rain drops in the video, but it's barely visible. Perhaps the computer is better at figuring it out than our eyes?
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