i have both and while the p3d is much more fun at times the RWD is still a very fun car AND it gets WAY better range. Downside in the winter is with one motor the RWD doesn't warm the battery up nearly as quickly as dual motors.
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Difference between P3 with 18 and LR RWD is 20 miles. I suspect difference to P3 with 19s or 20s is more.
Yeah. Dual motors don’t come without a price. It really makes me wonder what kind of numbers we could see out of a single motor Model X, having driven a single motor S before as a loaner it seemed to return numbers often similar to the P3D at moderate speeds.Sorry looks like i'm basically saying the same thing as ElectricIAC now that i've made it to end of thread
I have a 2018 Model 3 - LR RWD, and have been thinking about upgrading to an ‘18-‘19 P3D. I’m not concerned with the loss in efficiency range. I purchased mine just over a year ago for $44k, and should still be able to get close to that number today.
With preowned P3D’s selling for low 50’s used, just curious if anyone has made the switch and what they thought? I haven’t driven the P3D, so I’m a bit in the dark.
I said it was more with 20s, didn’t I? And I wasn’t reporting on paper difference. I have both cars with 18s. And, my direct experience is that driven similarly in the real world, difference is 20. Of course if you go wild with the P, the difference goes up.While on paper yes but I have a RWD LR with 19" and a P3D with 20"s and the range difference is way more than 20 miles doing any real world driving.
I have to give it to our 3MR in the handling department. It certainly felt more spry than the P3D of course I’ll have to try the new track mode with full rear bias to really do the comparison justice.Here is my opinion. The performance is not fun. It's actually boring. A Miata would be considered a fun car, not a tesla. It's very fast for sure but that's it.
The driving dynamics are mediocre. The steering is numb and the suspensions actually suck. The are stiff without being sporty which is totally to be expected on a vehicle that weights over two tons.
I would suggest to stick to your model 3. A much much sensible car without false pretenses. Or look at a base model Y. That make make more sense than a M3P.
Disclosure. I owned a model 3 stealth.
From some posts here (way back) I think the difference is more like 30 or 40 miles IRL. People were complaining they weren't getting even close to the EPA range in the P while people with the RWD were getting at or even more than the EPA number. Could partly be that people that drive the P tend to be lead footed. I mean after all it is a performance vehicle. I find the RWD plenty fast enough for all my needs.While on paper yes but I have a RWD LR with 19" and a P3D with 20"s and the range difference is way more than 20 miles doing any real world driving.
I have to give it to our 3MR in the handling department. It certainly felt more spry than the P3D of course I’ll have to try the new track mode with full rear bias to really do the comparison justice.
It’s like the base 3 series vs the M3. That’s about the difference between a RWD vs Performance.
Did you read the posts? This was purely in regards to acceleration.Not even close IMO. With a P3D, you have significantly faster acceleration, slightly better braking, and track mode for when you’re at the track. Interior is identical, exterior is identical (for the most part).
With an M3, it’s special walking up to it and drooling over the flared fenders, gaping air intake, quad tips, bulging hood, carbon fiber roof. It’s special when open the door, glowing M badges everywhere, sit inside, hands grabbing the wheel, seats grabbing hold of your body. It’s special when you start it up, loud enough to wake the whole neighborhood. It’s special when you shift into gear, step on the gas and hear the exhaust growl louder, even if you’re just cruising around at 5mph. It’s special when you slam on the brakes from 80mph for a 270-degree freeway interchange, turn the wheel and feel how insane the grip is and how finely tuned the suspension is.
The P3D is an amazing car and an amazing value, but under normal day-to-day, it’s nothing special over even an SR+. This is especially true if you’re on Autopilot every chance you get, like a lot of us are.
Not trying to downplay the value of the P3D over the 3LR. Just countering your comparison to a BMW 3-Series vs BMW M3.
Did you read the posts? This was purely in regards to acceleration.
And I concede the M3 is waaaay nicer than the base 330 it’s actually way nicer inside than the Tesla tooThat’s fair. If that’s the comparison then I concede
And I concede the M3 is waaaay nicer than the base 330 it’s actually way nicer inside than the Tesla too
I sell these things day in and day out. Except for the 3er, a few of the cheaper lines are somewhat out of date but the higher end and recently remodeled are top notch and quite intuitive.bmw interior is extremely outdated, nowhere near the interior quality of a tesla