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Alright well I decided to get it anyway. It’s literally the same amount of hassle as a gas car soNo, I wouldn’t.
Yeah…it’s just that ICE cars are so boring to drive. Even a $60k BMW no longer wowed me. Feels slow. I’m not buying an electric car to save the world but rather because it’s fun to drive and has amazing tech.I honestly would not even consider an electric car if I didn't have the capability to charge at home. And by home I mean my own charger that nobody else could ever use
Sounds like you've made up your mind. I'm sure you'll make it work. Heck I used to keep my motorcycle in the living room. I would sneak it through the back patio haha. Throw an extension cord out the windowYeah…it’s just that ICE cars are so boring to drive. Even a $60k BMW no longer wowed me. Feels slow. I’m not buying an electric car to save the world but rather because it’s fun to drive and has amazing tech.
So I guess I’m ok with putting up with the hassle. And if I get tired we’ll then I’ll just sell it for more than what I bought it for lol
Well yeah that’s what property management says Although sometimes not everyone follows the rule
The charging is free. So unless they started putting in a payment system, they can’t do that.At my last condo there was an idling fee to help incentivise owners to move when charging was complete. Maybe your place could do something similar?
With increasing ownership of EVs, your property management company will need to strengthen and enforce their parking rules and makes sure that everybody knows what the rules are and the consequences if they are not followed.
I don't really see any problem with the management company charging tenants to get their vehicles charged. Unless of course they run the gas station playbook and demand $1/kWh or more. If you can afford a Tesla, I'm sure that you can pay upwards of $0.30/kWh for the electricity - enough to at least cover whatever their costs are. Of course that would probably mean changing the existing infrastructure of the charging network to allow for billing of users. A company like ChargePoint could come in, install EVSE and setup an account for residents who must signup and obtain an RFID card. ChargePoint would then need to contact the building management to verify those that apply live there. Those stations could then be reserved only for tenants; not for any public use. Of course if they want to continue offering free L2 charging as an incentive to get and maintain more tenants or they don't want to incur the costs of changing EVSE equipment to go the billing route, that would be great too but that may lead to some problems later on down the line.File that under "example XXXXXXXXX for why we cant have nice things"... because what the most likely outcome of this is, the management gets tired of people complaining about charging and parking, etc and decides to start charging for the charging services "to make it fair". Thats my guess as to how all that will eventually shake out, anyway.
Which is why I said that they need to first establish some rules and makes sure everybody knows what they are. It could be as simple as maintaining a phone list and having residents communicate among themselves. Not too much of a problem now since there seems to be 3 or 4 people wanting use of the two chargers. Scaling up could be a problem if 10 people need to use the two chargers. That usually means some sort of a sign-up list; some way of tracking "who's next in line?". That may be solved by using something like a Google group calendar. Members could sign up for a block of time, say up to a week in advance, with no more that a certain number of blocks being reserved by any one member. A lot of this can be eliminated if the company changes over to an outside source (like ChargePoint) that can bill users and incentivize moving cars after charging by implementing a strong idle charge fee ($1/min)They can do it now because hardly anyone has EVs there per this OP. Given gas prices and people living there seeing the chargers and outlets, a lot more people may be plugging in there than the management anticipated, in the next 2-6 months. They will quickly get tired of a bunch of people saying "so and so didnt move their car, I couldnt charge, I need a parking space with a plug, how come those people get to charge and I can never get in there, etc etc".
Then the management company should see the writing on the wall. It will get to the point that there will be too many residents with EVs trying to use the (now) woefully inadequate number of free charging stations. Yes, some residents may be able to charge at work or use other off-site stations. But there will be a small subset of the population that can't, or would not want to, charge elsewhere. The company will either need to increase the number of free EVSEs to keep (mostly) everybody happy or wash their hands of the situation and install fee-based charging.I realize I sound like a pessimist here, but thats not the intent. I just know that if people living there know "some" get energy for free for their car, others will want to do the same once they buy their own EV (and will likely accelerate doing so given gas prices). I also know apartment managers dont like dealing with a lot of hassles between tenants.
Dont worry about the battery .. the gentle charge/discharge for this kind of use wont do it any harm.7. Since I live in a shared parking garage, if I left sentry mode on a lot of the time, I would probably lose a lot of charge. Would this be bad for the battery over time? Since it would be constantly discharging a good majority of the week?
Yeah, I think this is spot on .. in reality what is needed is some form of booking system for it ever to work in a shared apr complex. It's kinda crazy to me that no charger that I've ever looked at has this kind of model in its software.File that under "example XXXXXXXXX for why we cant have nice things"... because what the most likely outcome of this is, the management gets tired of people complaining about charging and parking, etc and decides to start charging for the charging services "to make it fair". Thats my guess as to how all that will eventually shake out, anyway.
They can do it now because hardly anyone has EVs there per this OP. Given gas prices and people living there seeing the chargers and outlets, a lot more people may be plugging in there than the management anticipated, in the next 2-6 months. They will quickly get tired of a bunch of people saying "so and so didnt move their car, I couldnt charge, I need a parking space with a plug, how come those people get to charge and I can never get in there, etc etc".
I realize I sound like a pessimist here, but thats not the intent. I just know that if people living there know "some" get energy for free for their car, others will want to do the same once they buy their own EV (and will likely accelerate doing so given gas prices). I also know apartment managers dont like dealing with a lot of hassles between tenants.
The one time I didn't enable sentry mode at my work parking lot was the one time someone managed to hit my front bumper.Unless you’re parking in particularly sketchy locations, sentry mode is a waste of energy when charging resources are limited. Each day of sentry mode requires an additional hour of charge time on your typical 30 amp public charging station.
Aside from that, the situation OP describes sounds reasonably tenable, with several backup charging options in the event that the home stations aren’t available for some reason.
Thanks guys! I am just dreading the wait now to get my car 1 month more!! Red on black with 18 aeros long range. It’s my first car now that I am out of college and can afford stuff!Unless you’re parking in particularly sketchy locations, sentry mode is a waste of energy when charging resources are limited. Each day of sentry mode requires an additional hour of charge time on your typical 30 amp public charging station.
Aside from that, the situation OP describes sounds reasonably tenable, with several backup charging options in the event that the home stations aren’t available for some reason.
You’re going to love it! I have red on black, as well. 145,000 miles and counting.Thanks guys! I am just dreading the wait now to get my car 1 month more!! Red on black with 18 aeros long range. It’s my first car now that I am out of college and can afford stuff!
let the charge come to you:I’ve seen past threads about this but feel it differs by situation. After test driving a model 3 I placed one on order immediately. Now I’m a bit unsure due to charging situation so I wanted to ask:
Normally go to the gym after work M, W, F which is 10 miles round trip, and then sometimes go to grocery store but that’s on the way home anyway.How many miles do you drive per week? It sounds like if you're only driving weekends you don't do much driving to begin with. There's a chance you could probably get by charging 1 or 2 days a week on the level 2 charger and be fine.