I went through same thing. I also had a 2018 P3D- and 100% agree with the OP’s observation. It wasn’t until a drove a loaner Model S that I realized the huge difference. And what I loathed to have. To help justify / afford the swap I needed to trade my fairly new Jeep Summit (that I loved). The Jeep had towing duties. So it had to be a Model X instead of a preferred Model S. No regrets. Did the swap last fall. I suspect a Model X Plaid will be further out and it will replace the P100. So I convinced myself plaid won’t devalue a LR X to soon or to much. Model S at this time has a bit more concern. But COVID might delay plaid. Who knows. When ever you do it. It will be a HUGE upgrade. I absolutely love the X.
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Would You Buy a New Model S Today?
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We bought our Raven S in August 2019. I would absolutely buy an S today. If only I had waited 9 months, today's S is $5000 cheaper with over 100 miles more range (ours is the 285-mile Standard Range). That said, my 268-mile real range hasn't been an issue and, despite FUSC, I've only used it 6-7 times so far -- way way less than I thought would happen.
I agree a 3/Y is a better value but I'm happier in the S, especially with the Raven suspension.
I agree a 3/Y is a better value but I'm happier in the S, especially with the Raven suspension.
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No, the company has screwed me and too many others to consider it at this time. With how much they "control" about the car and considering how "absent" they are when things go wrong (remember, there is a honeymoon period where they'll answer your calls... until they don't 
) I really can't feel good about buying a new Tesla. ESPECIALLY considering how they now change the rules of the game so often its hard to keep up. Lucky my very old 2013 was pretty black and white: unlimited SC, unlimited connectivity, etc;
) I really can't feel good about buying a new Tesla. ESPECIALLY considering how they now change the rules of the game so often its hard to keep up. Lucky my very old 2013 was pretty black and white: unlimited SC, unlimited connectivity, etc;No, I would never buy another Tesla ever again. Tesla artificially removed battery capacity and limited performance and charging speeds on 85 kWh battery packs. Tesla reached into our cars via software update and removed thousands of dollars in resale value and features for which we paid. Elon Musk apparently feels bait-and-switch is okay even well into your ownership period.
The new warranty language requires you to accept all software updates and excludes degradation to battery, range, and charging speeds even if caused intentionally by Tesla's own software. That's all you need to know about the Tesla experience. Should be enough to scare everyone away.
My advice: Look at i-Pace, e-Tron, and others. They also still get the $7,500 tax credit. Going with Tesla just for the supercharger network is silly if you don't really need it, and once you let go of that you'll find other EVs to be a much better option in terms of build quality, initial quality, and ownership experience. There are so many CCS chargers popping up everywhere that the supercharger network won't be much of an advantage soon. Supercharger network is already at a disadvantage vs. CCS in Europe.
#batterygate #chargegate
I would take the above comment with a grind of salt.
Tesla ecosystem is no different than Apple in concept. You buy not only the car but the network of chargers and software. That said, having both a 2016 S and a 2020 3... I would agree that Y is a better value. But if money isn't a problem, S and X are fantastic.
Tesla ecosystem is no different than Apple in concept. You buy not only the car but the network of chargers and software. That said, having both a 2016 S and a 2020 3... I would agree that Y is a better value. But if money isn't a problem, S and X are fantastic.
jlv1
Twice as much fun
Personally I'd buy a new S only if it had something like the Pano-Roof option again. I really love driving with the roof open.
rafa2020
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REPAIRS ON THE MODEL S ARE PAINFUL, PERHAPS BECAUSE THEY BUILT LESS OF THEM? SO IF YOU GET THE S MAYBE DON'T KEEP IT PAST THE 4 YEAR WARRANTY.
OR DO OWNERS OF THE 2018-2020 FEEL DIFFERENTLY?
THE S REALLY DOES RIDE NICELY IN ANY ROAD CONDITION WITH THE AIR SUSPENSION.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE FSD WILL BE WHAT ELON SUGGESTED ANY TIME SOON.
OR DO OWNERS OF THE 2018-2020 FEEL DIFFERENTLY?
THE S REALLY DOES RIDE NICELY IN ANY ROAD CONDITION WITH THE AIR SUSPENSION.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE FSD WILL BE WHAT ELON SUGGESTED ANY TIME SOON.
I’m very happy with my 2018 S 100D and would recommend a new S - technology improving all the time.
It is much more comfortable than any other car I’ve owned and Tesla in Vancouver have been extremely responsive and helpful in the last 2 and a 1/2 years.
I hope to use the car for many years for road trips , camping and adventure. I am looking forward to FSD software improvements and using my unlimited SC !
It is much more comfortable than any other car I’ve owned and Tesla in Vancouver have been extremely responsive and helpful in the last 2 and a 1/2 years.
I hope to use the car for many years for road trips , camping and adventure. I am looking forward to FSD software improvements and using my unlimited SC !
Cheburashka
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Definitely not. No pano roof and dont care for the extra range.
The Model Y seems like a much better buy.
The Model Y seems like a much better buy.
2016 S 75-only thing stopping my upgrade is my love of the pano roof. It fundamentally changes the experience especially on canyon and beach drives. Before buying a 2020 rent a used one with a pano.
henderrj
Active Member
I have a 2014 S with 215K miles on it. A close friend has a 3 I've driven a lot. I prefer my S. Better ride, 2 screens, quieter. (Although there are things I like on the 3.)
I would love to get a new one! The upcoming new design will cost more but whatever inventory is available when it comes out will be discounted so ...
As to the malcontents, hey, Tesla is not what it used to be, and it never will be again. That's the nature of things. But I still think it's the best car company out there. (Okay, some times I do feel like choking someone, and they often do stupid things, but what company doesn't?)
I would love to get a new one! The upcoming new design will cost more but whatever inventory is available when it comes out will be discounted so ...
As to the malcontents, hey, Tesla is not what it used to be, and it never will be again. That's the nature of things. But I still think it's the best car company out there. (Okay, some times I do feel like choking someone, and they often do stupid things, but what company doesn't?)
Absolutely. I use the Ac very little in the summer because I much prefer using the sunroof for fresh air.
What a shame they removed the sunroof
That and the still outstanding need for battergate safety transparency are the only things holding me back and my resolve is weakening.
Struja
“Frost”
This one is tough for me because I don’t see myself ever buying ICE again, so until two days ago It was any easy yes but when I saw my first Taycan on the road it made me think that if Porsche bumps their mileage up to be more competitive with Tesla, I’d consider the Taycan.
My Model S is the most enjoyable car I’ve ever owned but I do miss my Lexus reliability and treated like a human by Lexus customer service. My guess is that the Taycan might fill those voids.
My Model S is the most enjoyable car I’ve ever owned but I do miss my Lexus reliability and treated like a human by Lexus customer service. My guess is that the Taycan might fill those voids.
ucmndd
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110,000 miles and 3.5 years later, I’d buy another Model S tomorrow if I had to. Can’t see driving anything else. the improvement since my purchase in 2016 is astonishing.
As an owner of a “paid for” 2013 P85+, I just can’t bring myself to get a new S. Dropping that kind of coin for a car that is at least 80% the same car day in and day out (based on the various newer loaners I’ve had) as the one I’m driving now is just a step too far.
Another option might be to pick up a used Model S. I mean you ARE driving a used Tesla now...maybe pick up a 2018 Model S. In day-to-day driving the primary item you are giving up would be the Raven adaptive suspension.
Another option might be to pick up a used Model S. I mean you ARE driving a used Tesla now...maybe pick up a 2018 Model S. In day-to-day driving the primary item you are giving up would be the Raven adaptive suspension.
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