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Would you buy the panoramic roof without a sunshade?

Would you buy the panoramic roof without a sunshade?

  • Yes, I prefer a less obtrusive, more aesthetic roof bar instead.

    Votes: 96 77.4%
  • No, I would not buy the panoramic roof witout a sunshade.

    Votes: 28 22.6%

  • Total voters
    124
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A panorama roof is not a new concept. Here in FL, the last three cars we have owned had them, and when the shade is left open, the car bakes. If the shade is thin and flimsy like our Audi A3, the car still gets hotter than the equivalent car with standard roof. I don't think Tesla has invented any new technology for heat and light rejection.

IMO, if you live in very sunny climates, a sunshade is a must.
 
A panorama roof is not a new concept. Here in FL, the last three cars we have owned had them, and when the shade is left open, the car bakes. If the shade is thin and flimsy like our Audi A3, the car still gets hotter than the equivalent car with standard roof. I don't think Tesla has invented any new technology for heat and light rejection.

IMO, if you live in very sunny climates, a sunshade is a must.
Dr. Chill, have you driven a Model S with the panoramic roof yet? I live in Hawaii where the sun bakes the cars through normal sunroofs also and I felt exactly the same as you until I drove the Model S with the sun almost directly overhead on a clear day. It truly does block most all of the light and heat. It is not like any other sunroof I have ever experienced. The sunlight is very subdued, very pleasant. You might change your mind with this particular roof if you have not already experienced it first hand. I did.
 
And there is always the option of aftermarket tint. I know people want factory but you can find a good shop they can add tint to block all UV and however much visible light you want. I'm definitely going to get the side and rear windows done soon after we get the car.
 
In Texas I definitely need the pano roof screen shade which every employee from the NYC store on 25th to those at the Mahwah event to the sales specialists on the phone agreed the vehicle would have. My Hybrid Escalade has one and the screen shade is just a must have.

An interior shade isn't going to block heat transmission. And the glass itself blocks 98% of the visible light. Latest I heard is that the shade is going to be a mesh thing.

So, in my view, all the shade does is make the bar across the sunroof larger and uglier.
 
An interior shade isn't going to block heat transmission. And the glass itself blocks 98% of the visible light. Latest I heard is that the shade is going to be a mesh thing.

So, in my view, all the shade does is make the bar across the sunroof larger and uglier.

In the Hybrid Escalade, when the sun is shining up top, the screen shade significantly stops the direct sun's heat (Texas is incredibly hot!) on my head/body. It's just a must in this area.

A screen shade provides Texan's with two choices: blasting direct sun heat....or not.

So I would take a mesh Pano sun shade in the Model S. just anything that will help stop the sun from melting my clothes to my body....something that has to be experienced to be understood.
 
It's kind of a competition between Texas and Florida regarding the weather. Y'all seem to think it doesn't get hot anywhere else. We have the same sun shining that you do.

It was 107 here today, expecting a cooling trend to take us to 102. And that's how it is most of the summer. Hot enough that my dogs look at me like I'm crazy when I try to entice them out to the pool. "No, we'll just stay inside where the ac is working, tyvm."
 
Do you think the sunroof glass in your Escalade blocks 98% of visible light and 81% of heat, like Tesla claims its sunroof glass does?

I know what you mean the Hybrid Escalades screen shade certainly blocks less than that but even with Model S pano roof, 19% of 1 million degrees is still burning me up. Hell we have something called dashboard cookies here. You put cookie dough in a pan on you dashboard....and they really cook!

Hmmmm...Tesla dashboard cookies. That's a neat idea....ewww.... no thank you. Goodbye new car smell.
 
It's kind of a competition between Texas and Florida regarding the weather. Y'all seem to think it doesn't get hot anywhere else. We have the same sun shining that you do.

It was 107 here today, expecting a cooling trend to take us to 102. And that's how it is most of the summer. Hot enough that my dogs look at me like I'm crazy when I try to entice them out to the pool. "No, we'll just stay inside where the ac is working, tyvm."

It was 85ish in LA today.. but its a dry heat :p
 
Three weeks ago on a 90 degree day I rode in the backseat of a model S while my wife was test-driving (the theory is I might let her drive mine once in a while:wink:). I was pleasantly surprised that I couldn't feel any heat from the sun through the pano roof, and there was no sunshade equipped in the car. The sun was almost straight up - that glass is very dark. There also was no glare. I do not belive a shade is required... but I'd keep it unless it is the reason for the unsightly roof bar.
 
Have test driven the Model S twice, both on 90 deg sunny days. I was concerned about heat/light propagation through the pano roof (both cars had one) before I test drove, but I noticed no discernible heat radiating from the roof and no obvious glare as I drove. I thought the shade would be really important, but now I'm not so sure. To answer the question -- yes, I'd buy without the sunshade.
 
I voted "Yes" but not because I prefer the design without a sunshade. I test drove one near mid-day on a bright, sunny California day and found that it reduced the light/heat almost completely. If it had a sunshade, I'd probably never use it.

My current car has a motorized sunshade which is very much needed in summer because that roof is not nearly as dark as Model S.
 
I voted "Yes" but not because I prefer the design without a sunshade. I test drove one near mid-day on a bright, sunny California day and found that it reduced the light/heat almost completely. If it had a sunshade, I'd probably never use it.

Precisely. I've got 3,500 miles on my S driven in high-altitude, sunny Colorado, and I never even think about the due-bill sunshade. I'll have to see it before I let Tesla install it, when and if they offer, which I'm beginning to doubt.

Anybody else believe the sunshade will never see the light of day (you'll pardon the pun)?