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would you pay if Tesla offer "stability assist" control upgrade to all model 3 models?

would you pay if Tesla offer "stability assist" control upgrade to all model 3 models?

  • yes

    Votes: 8 29.6%
  • no

    Votes: 19 70.4%

  • Total voters
    27

coolmanfever

Member
Dec 1, 2019
537
420
toronto
I am not into auto crossing but was just watching youtube video about Track V2 software update for all model 3 performance model.

I own a standard range rwd model where I get heavy snowy sometimes during winter. I find the stability assist is too sensitive when driving on heavy snowy and actually slow down my car.

I just wish all model 3 models esp. rwd model has the option to adjust and control stability assist from -10 to +10 depending on the snow condition on the road.
 
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raptor5244

Active Member
May 10, 2019
1,135
839
Florida
stability control is not going to slow you down in the snow unless you think you’re Colin McRae.

I am not sure it is necessarily about setting some record time. Many folks just don't like the car interfering and cutting power, etc. just because of a little wheel spin and slip angle. It feels artificial and ruins the driving experience for folks that learned how to drive way before nannies appeared on vehicles.
 

dfwatt

Active Member
Sep 24, 2018
3,126
5,134
FL
I am not sure it is necessarily about setting some record time. Many folks just don't like the car interfering and cutting power, etc. just because of a little wheel spin and slip angle. It feels artificial and ruins the driving experience for folks that learned how to drive way before nannies appeared on vehicles.

Yes perhaps for those experienced in controlling vehicles at significant slip angles. For the inexperienced however that little bit of slip angle can be a slippery pathway into a whole lot of slip angle, a whole lot of oversteer and then from there a whole lot of trouble. But I agree there should be a progressive way to dial out the nannies. Other than track mode version 2 that is. Or perhaps if they were more generous they would just make track mode version 2 available for everybody.
 

Mr. Burrito

Member
Oct 19, 2019
185
158
America!
I am not sure it is necessarily about setting some record time. Many folks just don't like the car interfering and cutting power, etc. just because of a little wheel spin and slip angle. It feels artificial and ruins the driving experience for folks that learned how to drive way before nannies appeared on vehicles.
Haven't drive my 3 in the snow yet - how bad is the stability control intervention? I know with Subarus, it lets you kick the rear end out a bit before intervening but, let's be honest, that isn't a faster way to get around in the snow - just more fun. Certainly don't do that on my normal commute, but it is fun to play where there's no traffic or parked cars around.
 

rtshefe

Member
Oct 11, 2019
321
255
NC
how about you let the p3d owners get it first


its literally only hit 8% of the fleet

im going crazy waiting for this update!
 

MoreAgain

Member
Nov 23, 2018
383
431
San Diego
I have the LR RWD and not only would I pay, I already have! Not to Tesla, but Mountain Pass Performance, who are actually listening to the market and offering a TC/VSC defeat option- the PartyBox. I was able to get in early as a beta tester for the PartyBox and it makes all the difference. To date, my best lap time at Buttonwillow with the stock Traction Control is 2:11.4, whereas my PB of 2:06.5 was set using the PartyBox with no other changes to the car. While the PartyBox has not gone to full production yet, it is getting close, and sounds like it will be available for both RWD and AWD variants.

So, options at this point for those who don't have access to Track Mode are:
1) Disconnect wheel speed sensor (results are similar to Dyno Mode, but cuts all regen, ABS and decreases power steering)
2) Engage Dyno Mode
3) Purchase MPP PartyBox

Video on the differences between Dyno Mode and Partybox:
 
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jnichols959

New Member
Jan 27, 2020
4
1
Portland, OR
I have the LR RWD and not only would I pay, I already have! Not to Tesla, but Mountain Pass Performance, who are actually listening to the market and offering a TC/VSC defeat option- the PartyBox. I was able to get in early as a beta tester for the PartyBox and it makes all the difference. To date, my best lap time at Buttonwillow with the stock Traction Control is 2:11.4, whereas my PB of 2:06.5 was set using the PartyBox with no other changes to the car. While the PartyBox has not gone to full production yet, it is getting close, and sounds like it will be available for both RWD and AWD variants.

So, options at this point for those who don't have access to Track Mode are:
1) Disconnect wheel speed sensor (results are similar to Dyno Mode, but cuts all regen, ABS and decreases power steering)
2) Engage Dyno Mode
3) Purchase MPP PartyBox

Video on the differences between Dyno Mode and Partybox:

Sadly #3 does not appear to be an option right now. As you yourself said it has not gone to full production yet. I found PartyBox Activation | Mountain Pass Performance but that's the closest thing I can find to any official details about a production-like version on the MPP site. I'd love to know what "getting close" really means and get an idea for what it may end up costing.

As others have said many times in many different forum posts, it's quite unfortunate Tesla doesn't provide a way to scale back traction/stability control other than turning off slip start. I love my SR+ but I'm jealous of pretty much every ICE RWD car when it's wet or snowy out. Even my mom's early 80s VW Vanagon is more fun to get slipping around on purpose when grip is low!
 

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