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Discussion in 'Tesla, Inc.' started by Sdunnin, Oct 9, 2017.

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  1. Sdunnin

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    Cheap shot that is..
     
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    WSJ panders to shorts...
     
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    WSJ panders to shorts because the are on the payroll of the anti-tesla lobby. Fortunately were are past that point of it mattering.
     
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    There's nothing new about Tesla's initial ramping up practice since the Roadster, Model S, Model X and currently Model 3 which have always been slow.

    When Elon predicts something, he talks in term of ideal, perfect future conditions.

    But life in future, which is now the present, is not always ideal.

    Thus, the current lower production rate of Model 3 instead of the predicted number.

    It is bad news for environmentalists who want to see a faster rate of EV adoption.

    However, it is not a bad news for investors.

    Model 3 is not as profitable as Model S and X so, to make a quick buck, you just don't want to encourage consumers to buy Model 3 but rather direct them to the S and X.

    Thus, as a financial newspaper, WSJ is misguided.
     
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    So meh...and actually pushing back production of the 3 is brilliant and will allow more folks to get the $7500 tax credit(maybe into Q2 2018) if managed correctly.
     
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    cheap shot? reporting facts is now considered a cheap shot?
     
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    #8 mkjayakumar, Oct 10, 2017
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    "Building major portions of car by hand

    "Banging parts by hand"

    These are not facts. These are exaggerated speculations (aka lies) with no proof based on only one fact that we all know, which is Tesla built far fewer M3s than their stated goal in the first two months of their production ramp.

    You think we are stupid to not know the difference between facts, speculation, exaggeration and outright lies ?

    Your retort, that these are facts, reeks of dishonesty.
     
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    #10 mkjayakumar, Oct 10, 2017
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    WSJ makes a speculation. Jalopnik quotes WSJ. Now it becomes a fact. Got it.

    The point is, there will be some human touch in every assembly line at some stage or other. I have seen videos of 'highly automated' assembly lines of BMW and Nissan, and there are humans touching parts (aka banging parts together) on some sections.

    Musks goal is to have zero touch automation and that will happen one day. Not on day one.

    What is manual today, two months from now will partially automated and then later fully automated. There is a progressive maturity in automation and efficiency every company goes through in any pipeline.

    What's the big deal even if some sections of assembly have human touch today? That is called production ramp.
     
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    did you read the entire article? I'll help, while there is nothing supporting the handmade part claim by the WSJ, there are some glaring issues happening in freemont on the m3 line.
    I know that for many elon and the gang are infallible but something is not happening right in the assembly dept.
     
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    Same kind of FUD article each and every time Tesla builds a new model family from the same anti-Tesla rag that has been a problem since literally day 1.

    At this point, I wouldn't trust the WSJ to tell me Tesla's company colors include a shade of red without looking...

    Jeff
     
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    Here comes the lawsuits :( One of many.
    EQUITY ALERT: Rosen Law Firm Files Securities Class Action Lawsuit Against Tesla, Inc. – TSLA
    Only one way to save the case now. Keep pumping the stock price higher, to disprove that there was any losses for investors. Adam, Palha, Gene, Andrea, where r u guys? We need the 2150 DCF model. ;)
     
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    "Have you, or someone you love, ever been injured by a Model 3? You may be entitled to compensation. Call the Lawfirm of Exxon, Shell, and BP"
     
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    that is clever but the lawsuit is based on some interesting issues. just like the leftys squeal mightily about trump's undisciplined twitter rants, elon needs to learn how to tamp down his enthusiastic proclamations, especially when they're made in earning calls. The feds don't like pump and dump schemes.
     
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    Everything taking longer than he forecasts, always. It's a scandal and it has a name - ELON GATE
     
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    They're complaining that the Model 3 wasn't ready before even Musk said it would be ready.. Right.. They're complaining that the ramp up didn't go as fast as they wanted - while the ramp-up is just starting... Right...
     
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