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X: What's your 90%?

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Yikes 212*333=70.6kwh usable. That's a fair amount of degradation even if the "90" packs only started in the low 80's ..
Pretty sure the Performance models use a higher Wh/mile number for Rated Miles because of the large rear motor.
For some reason on my P90DL I thought it was 340 Wh/mile but my memory could be off.

I used the fueleconomy.gov site to see the city/highway/combined MPGe which you can convert to Wh/Mile.
Here is what I see for the 2 vehicles variants I owned. '16 90D, '16 P90D, '17 100D, '17 P100D
Range of various MPGes was 81 to 94.

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MPGe to Wh/mi conversion tables with examples and formulas
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For some reason on my P90DL I thought it was 340 Wh/mile but my memory could be off.

I used the fueleconomy.gov site to see the city/highway/combined MPGe which you can convert to Wh/Mile.
Here is what I see for the 2 vehicles variants I owned. '16 90D, '16 P90D, '17 100D, '17 P100D
Range of various MPGes was 81 to 94.

avqaUce.jpg


MPGe to Wh/mi conversion tables with examples and formulas
GM1tbtX.jpg
I believe the EPA numbers include charging losses, so they're going to show a higher Wh/mile than the vehicle will use for an internal calculation.
 
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I would be pretty happy with those miles considering 22" wheels.

100%: 272 = ((245 / 9) * 10) ... aka (245 / 0.9)
19" equiv: 299 = 272 * 110% considering Tesla had a 10% loss on their ordering page at one point of the 19" vs 22" IIRC.

Yeah it's not bad, but I don't actually get 245 miles at all! Realistic range at 90% is more like 180 - 215 mi on a 90% charge. The wheels really do destroy everything (my driving style doesn't help either 😇). But they look 😍
 
Wheel size is mentioned (or should be mentioned) in every post in The Wh/mi thread, but I'm not sure I was expecting to see it come up here?

I guess real world range is affected by *both* pack capacity (this thread) and consumption (the other thread) so I'll just back off and not play thread cop.

Totally agree the big wheels *look* awesome. But damn they really affect the ride. I was driving a loaner with big rims on city streets the other day and thought I was going to have my fillings shaken loose. Of course the flip side was when I got to a smooth road it was like a dream..
 
No one has done a late 2020 LR++ (on 20s)with H battery. Last pack before refresh shut down in Dec 2020 and in 9-2020 through 12-2020 '20 and '21 models with 371 EPA range, so here is mine.

At 8000 miles, 90% gives 329 or 366 extrapolated to 100%.

At 10500 miles, 90% gives 327 or 364 extrapolated to 100%.

Don't know what it was at new, as bought used with 7800 miles 2 months ago.

How does it really do? Did a trip to U. P. cabin and back, no real chargers on the way other than a 11 kw dest charger 20 miles out of the way and a 7kw municiple J1772 in Houghton, so on my own for door to door.

On way up, 50kw used on the trip Meter happened at 178 miles into the trip. If I have 100kw usable (question that actually) full range to battery damaging 0 charge would be 356 miles. Up trip is better than back home as there is a 900 foot altitude drop over the trip and wind is a prevailing SW tail wind. With FSD auto steer limited to 5 over limit on side roads, do 60 mph for most of trip, with a 28 mile stretch at 70.
 
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On way up, 50kw used on the trip Meter happened at 178 miles into the trip. If I have 100kw usable (question that actually) full range to battery damaging 0 charge would be 356 miles. Up trip is better than back home as there is a 900 foot altitude drop over the trip and wind is a prevailing SW tail wind. With FSD auto steer limited to 5 over limit on side roads, do 60 mph for most of trip, with a 28 mile stretch at 70.
50 kWh (50000 Wh) in 178 miles is 280.9 Wh/mi. which is great.

Your X 100 (LR) is like 98.X kWh -- Calculate usable battery capacity based on rated miles values

You can't drive to 0 SOC as there is a buffer. Tesla protects the battery as you would expect.

I've charged on 120v to get 3-4 miles/hour added at an AirBnB recently. Handy to get a little over night.

See this post for estimating your battery capacity: Calculating Your Battery's Estimated Capacity Using the Car's Energy Screen
 
Update: 2018 X100D, 20" wheels, odo is just under 21,000 miles. 90% shows 253.62 on TeslaFi. Also recently did two deep single digit % to 100% overnight AC charges while driving cross country (usually hit 100% 1-2 hours before departure so no real damage). 100% is showing 281.93 miles for each of those. The cross country trip was a good time to deep cycle the battery a bit and get the BMS back in line.
Managed to break the TeslaFi record for X's by driving 330 miles in one shot. (100% down to 3%) Trip was from a state park near Fort Wayne, IN to the Erie PA supercharger.

Back to mostly staying in the 35-70% zone now that my yearly cross country trip/excuse to recalibrate the BMS is done.