Yellow Dashed Line

[geoffmanley]

View media item 120617Before you freak out, this is what the classic Tesla dashboard looks like. But my question/concern is that the yellow dashed line that limits power has been coming on at higher and higher remaining miles. It used to come on around 50 miles of range left. Now it is over 100, about 110. And it comes on regardless of battery temperature and stays on until the batteries are recharged. Is this normal to get reduced power for such a wide swath of SOC?

 

[David29]

Unable to see the photo.

 

[geoffmanley]

Hmm, odd, it shows in my browser. There is a link underneath it that can also be clicked on.

 

[Tam]

Hmm, odd, it shows in my browser. There is a link underneath it that can also be clicked on.

Maybe you can see it because you are the author.

The rest of us get:

Tesla Motors Club - Error
You do not have permission to view media within this album.

 

[geoffmanley]

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/media/img_0215.120617/full

does that link work? I don't know how to tag a pic as public I guess.

 

[KalJoMoS]

Still no joy, you do not need to tag any photo just add/upload it to the post. There is even button next to the “Post Reply” button.

 

[geoffmanley]

R

 

[vapor trail]

I don't have an answer for your question, but very cool to see the vintage dashboard still in use.

 

[hpartsch]

View media item 120617Before you freak out, this is what the classic Tesla dashboard looks like. But my question/concern is that the yellow dashed line that limits power has been coming on at higher and higher remaining miles. It used to come on around 50 miles of range left. Now it is over 100, about 110. And it comes on regardless of battery temperature and stays on until the batteries are recharged. Is this normal to get reduced power for such a wide swath of SOC?

I too notice this exact thing on my 2013 85. Your limiting spot is the exact same where mine was when I had ~115 miles. The temperature wasn't abnormally cold either (~55 F). I expected the limit to drop by the time I got home but it didn't. Did not have this severe of limiting prior to this summers software updates. I think this is part of the batterygate/chargegate (and what now seems to be even more power limiting with these latest updates). Guess we can call it powergate?

 

[geoffmanley]

I too notice this exact thing on my 2013 85. Your limiting spot is the exact same where mine was when I had ~115 miles. The temperature wasn't abnormally cold either (~55 F). I expected the limit to drop by the time I got home but it didn't. Did not have this severe of limiting prior to this summers software updates. I think this is part of the batterygate/chargegate (and what now seems to be even more power limiting with these latest updates). Guess we can call it powergate?

Yes, it seems to have popped up recently with the latest updates. But it sure seems overly protective to be limiting power with over 40% battery charge left.

 

[Alysashley79]

Do you have a P? My 13 used to do that to keep me from overusing energy. Mine now starts at 25 percent. My guess would just be a battery protectant.

 

[geoffmanley]

Do you have a P? My 13 used to do that to keep me from overusing energy. Mine now starts at 25 percent. My guess would just be a battery protectant.

Yes, I have the P85+.

 

[hpartsch]

Do you have a P? My 13 used to do that to keep me from overusing energy. Mine now starts at 25 percent. My guess would just be a battery protectant.

Mine is not a P and did not do this prior to this summers update at such this high of a SOC.

 

[SmartElectric]

There is a similar thread posted elsewhere, can't bother to look, but I posted that I too have seen this over the summer and it's a slightly new behavior.

Classic 2013 early VIN (~6000) Tesla S85 (non P) with original "A" battery pack (the one with a 90 kW supercharger limit).
Typically saw the yellow line in colder (5C or below) weather, or when at lower states of charge (less than 30% SOC).

DELTA from previous behavior : Now I see the yellow line under 100% acceleration at any SOC or temperature since mid 2019.

The power level still feels "sufficient" (my wife's term), and I feel there is nothing otherwise out of the ordinary except for a yellow dashed line indicator when I "hammer it" (ala Bjorn Nyland)

 

[hpartsch]

Mine is not a P and did not do this prior to this summers update at such this high of a SOC.

For additional info - I bought the car with a B pack installed.

 

[Spacey73]

Yep I've noticed the power line come on when I get lower on charge, triggering earlier now since update.

 

[lightningltd]

I suffer from batterygate and chargegate, so I have seen this since June
Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

 

[gaswalla]

I have a 2012 with 240k miles...
I had same experience as OP - dashed lines coming at higher and higher SOC even with normal temps. Was coming on at 30% SOC.
Had very minor issue and Tesla asked to replace the HV battery - and this issue is gone. This all was prior to 'batterygate'.. My conclusion is that as the battery degrades, the capacity and range decrease, and also the power (and supercharging rate) decreases - this was my explanation for the dashed lines and reduced power.

 

[3ry-reset]

Power limited only at 80+ mph

I've had this for years. It started out only at high speed but now it is all of the time and limits me more than 100 kW. In my case, it is a battery module that failed, probably due to a coolant pump that had failed tesla wasn't able to identify (it didn't trigger errors or logs, and took years for them to find). Unfortunately, since the battery failure is only causing me to lose horsepower and not range tesla says they won't fix the failure.

 

[gaswalla]

above post sure sounds eligible for battery replacement under warranty - loss of performance or power that is not related to degradation is definitely covered under warranty