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Value of FSD on resale

In evaluating upgrading to FSD at $8000, I looked into what the resale value of a model S with FSD versus one without. Using KBB as my guide, it looks like FSD at best will add $3000 to the resale value of a Tesla. That’s a lot of instant depreciation for a $8000 upgrade. Even worse at $12000. Is this indicative of the market voting with its dollars saying FSD is not worth the investment? I drive a 2024 model Y with FSD having transferred it from my 2018 model S 75D. Was thinking about selling the model S and was surprised at a fairly consistent resale value of only about $24000 on Carvana and KBB. Same car with FSD valued at $27000. Value is based on a California location where there are many used Teslas for sale. I do use FSD and like the auto park, summon (very useful when people park to close to the driver side doors) and highway FSD aspects of it. Based on my street driving use of it, I have no confidence in its ability to operate predictably or consistently.

Ideaal vervoer in afwachting van robotaxi : EV of openbaar vervoer.

Om hier geen offtopic discussie te laten uitlopen, heb ik maar een nieuw draadje gestart omdat het wel een interessant topic is.
Ik vind openbaar vervoer niet (meestal) werken. Enkele argumenten.
  • Ik heb de laatste 20 jaar op heel veel projecten op verschillende plaatsen gewerkt, telkens de OV optie bekeken, maar die was nooit haalbaar. Vanaf dat je moet overstappen verlies je te veel tijd
  • 2 keer heb ik het gedurende een paar jaar gedaan. Op een project bij NMBS en 1 bij Infrabel. Het kantoor lag rechtuit het station an Brussel Zuid, ik vertrok in Denderleeuw, waar je tussen 7 en 8 uur 11 treinen richting Brussel had. Ideale omstandigheden dus en toch was ik nog steeds even lang onderweg als door de ochtendspits met de wagen naar Brussel
  • Veel in Mechelen en Antwerpen gewerkt, maar dan moest ik overstappen. Voegt minstens 10 minuten aan je reis toe als je de aansluiting niet mist. Waarom rijden alle treinen elk (half) uur hetzelfde traject. Mocht die can 7:30 naar Luik rijden en die van 8:00 naar Antwerpen en die van 8:30 nog een andere richting, dan vind ik er misschien 1 naar Mechelen waarbij ik niet moe overstappen. Ik heb flexibele werktijden
  • Aan de afrit Aalst (en zo zijn er nog plaatsen, passeren 2 treinlijnen in open ruimte. De ochtendfile begint meestal in Aalst. Als ze op (1 van) die lijnen een halte maken en een grote parking, dan zou er zeker bij veel mensen interesse zijn om van daar de trein te nemen.
  • Luchthaven Charleroi, er passert een lijn op 1 km. Toch kan je er met het OV moeilijk geraken
  • Parking station Denderleeuw kost 30€ per maand. Daar nog een treinabonnement bij en gevolg is dat de helft van de passagiers enkel mensen zijn waar de werkgever het abonnement betaald (vooral ambtenaren en Nmbs en infrabelpersoneel en mensen aan verminderd tarief).
Rails uitbreken, asfalteren en FSD wagens op laten rijden die carpoolen.

LFP range in decent weather

Hi,

I’ve posted about this before but it appeared to be down to the chillier weather but I could do with some advice on range for my 2021 SR+.

I’m only getting about 130 miles out of a full charge, and the weather has been pretty nice (17deg and upwards). The battery hasn’t really been cold and my whpm appears to be reasonable.

I hear people with LFP saying in summer weather they can get 180+ miles and whilst that would be great, I travel about 150 miles a week so I means having to charge twice a week which I think is a bit silly (renovations mean I have no home charger at the moment). Charging twice a week at 80ppkw is costing me about £80 for a twice a week charge… more than any other car I’ve owned.

Im not sure what I’m doing wrong!

I’ve attached a couple of photos.

Thanks

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Tesla Model S Headlight "Base" vs "Up-Level"

I currently own a 2017 Model S 75 equipped with the standard 'Base' headlights. Unfortunately, the LED strip on my headlight brow has burnt out, prompting me to consider replacing both headlights. I'm exploring the possibility of upgrading to the 'Up-Level' headlights and wondering if this swap would be compatible without encountering any issues. Can I seamlessly install the 'Up-Level' headlights in place of the 'Base' ones?

Will I get a MYP today? (First car declined delivery 🥺)

Well all excited to pick up brand new MYP Stealth Grey. First the “15 min process” took about an hour and half to even see the car. So the whole process looked like a great experience in all the Delivery Day video I watched. Then, car comes out for delivery (finally) and it’s a mess! Pollen still everywhere, much of the car (entire 1/4 panels) not even washed, dirt/grime in every corner, leaves stuck in the wiper area, then for stuff that couldn’t be fixed with a good detailing, scratches all over, and the frunk hood was lower (by enough to notice just looking at it).

Declined car…they have a second in stock. It’s getting ready. Hopefully it isn’t strike two and I’m out.

Sorry a disappointing first post, was hoping for a much better experience.

If you could provide power to your neighbors, would you?

The grid is more unstable each year due to increasing renewable penetration without sufficient energy storage. It was designed for slow, stable, turbine-based generators and we are offsetting them with massive banks of inverters that don't contribute a fraction of the stability.

The grid of the future must integrate resources to the residential level, like EVs, to address this. Imagine a tight web with millions of generators and loads where power can be supplied right next to where it’s needed.

What would it take to allow someone to sell your EV's power while you weren't using it? What control over it or flexibility would you need? What would hold you back?

[UK] 2024.20 Software Update


Of note:
Adaptive Headlight Improvements - Headlights now adapts for curves in the road ahead of you and illuminate farther when you’re driving on a motorway.
Autopilot Suspension - Changes to suspension policy
Hot Weather Improvements - This release includes AUTO HVAC improvements for hot weather. The A/C cools down the cabin faster, and maintains comfort at lower noise levels.

Tesla Model 3 2019 not driving as smooth as before

Hi guys,

Had a bit of an accident with my model 3 a few months ago. Swerved into a curb to avoid having a major crash and damaged both front and rear drivers side rims and tyres. The drive just hasn’t been the same at high speeds since that. When driving around town it’s fine but when doing over 50mph the drive isn’t as smooth as it was. Had new tyres fitted and rims repaired and the problems has got better but it’s still not as smooth as it was when going at high speeds. Just feels like a really rough drive now. Any ideas what may be the cause?

Thanks guys

Spotify - Liked Songs playlist

Hello all

We have been using Spotify in the car for a while and our little boy has created a mammoth playlist using “Liked Songs”.

This is on the account that is linked to the Tesla subscription.

We have now gone to Spotify for our home music and want to transfer / share / link to the Liked Song list in the car so that we can use it on the new home account.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Suggestions on protecting the USB stick?

Not that the glove box is big enough to put much, but I am avoiding putting anything of weight/substance in my Model S plaid because I'm worried the usb will take damage, or dislodge if hit with something inside the glove box. Is there a way to block off this area so contents in the glovebox dont hit the USB stick?

I know there are organizers for the other models, but not seeing one for the 2024 Model S.

Suggestions?

Vacation Condo Vehicle; Lost Phone Key connection, now can't control charging/security/etc

As the title states. I have a Model Y that I leave at my vacation condo for myself and my family to use. It frequently sits for a month or two at a time without driving. The past few years I haven't had any issues. I leave it at 50% and plugged in with the normal mobile connector. I most recently drove the car in late February and set up my phone as the phone key and did all the software updates to get it up to date. I somehow lost my phone key connection in my app (I signed out and back in and it still not reconnecting) Now when I am on my car in the tesla app, I have lost all ability to set my charge level, security settings, etc. Is there any way I can remotely disable the Phone Key so that I can get these controls back in the app?

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Service ervaring positief in Purmerend (let op, positief :)

Bedacht dat het misschien ook wel eens goed is om een positief verhaal te posten, over een Tesla Service Center. :)

Ik had op mijn MYLR 2023 een adjustment nodig van de charge port omdat ik steeds de melding kreeg "kan niet vergrendelen" met de bijgeleverde kabel. Besloot na een jaar maar eens een service request in te schieten. Later voegde ik eraan toe dat ik iets onder de auto hoorde bij harde zijwind, waarschijnlijk een bodemplaat los ofzo. Handig, alles in de app.

Bij bezoek 1 was ik best onder de indruk van de procedure, alles via de app, in principe niemand nodig. Super makkelijk inleveren, boven wat werken en drinken terwijl ik wacht. Reparatiestatus makkelijk te volgen en alles via chat in de app, indien nodig. Het duurde wat langer en kreeg van de (vriendelijke) medewerker een X Plaid mee als leen auto. 's avonds de auto's omgeruild, lang na sluitingstijd. Fantastisch toch? Persoonlijk vond ik dit beter dan bij BMW en Honda, de "ouderwetse" manier zeg maar.

Bleek dat ik door een eerder gemiste verkeersdrempel schade had gereden aan de onderkant, bevestigingsbout van de plaat was kapot gereden. Had geen idee, maar een paar maanden eerder wel een keer te hard over zo'n ouderwetse hoge drempel gereden omdat ik hem over het hoofd zag. Dat dus. Wel duur. Kwamen dus nog 2 betaalde bezoeken achteraan voor een beugel en een nieuwe plaat. Ook dat liep prima en geeft mij hoop voor als ik ooit nog service nodig heb. Netjes de kosten van te voren in de app. Betalen in de app. Inleveren, ophalen, alles makkelijk. Stond vandaag in een half uurtje weer buiten en reed in mijn auto weg, met niemand gepraat en alles netjes opgelost. Fantastisch toch?

Het mooiste was overigens de leenauto, buiten dat het een X plaid was. Je krijgt een ping in je Tesla app, er komt een auto bij en je stapt in met je telefoon als sleutel. Seamless. Het liedje op Spotify ging verder waar hij in mijn eigen auto gebleven was. Dit is echt een aantal jaar verder dan "old automotive" hoor, iig de merken die ik ken. Hier hebben ze goed over nagedacht.

Vandaag stonden ze overigens aan drie autos te werken in de buitenlucht, dus schijnbaar is er genoeg te doen :)

ChargePoint home not as advertised

Installed HomeFlex hardwired CH50 with NEMA connector.

I was told it needed two 4gauge cables and either 70 or 80 amb breaker, but the unit only accepts 6 gauge and 80 is not legal here. 70amp achieves the same results according to the instruction booklet. I pay the extra $100 to bump up from the 60 amp thinking 80% is 52amp and my max net will be 50amp/12kw.

No, it’s 48amp/11kw 🤬
Ok, yes that’s better than Tesla 45amp/10kw but I’m not happy with the false advertisement and the waste of the upgrade money!
Tesla’s chart shows a max input of 11.5amp for home charging and I’m not getting that either.


Has anyone had better results?

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Time to disable bluetooth as a key?

I have been reading allot of articles lately that say the model 3 (even the new one with UWB) are susceptable to radio relay attacks, and BLE relay attacks.
I have an older model 3 (2018). I don't think there is any fix for non-highland models?

However most articles are just repeated news (not primary source) and don't go into enough detail for me to understand the actual problem. Is the bluetooth hack actually a thing or are they talking about keyfob attacks or something else?

Is there a way to disable the bluetooth as a key option? (just delete all the bluetooth keys?).

Should I instead use the key card to unlock / lock and drive the car from now on, or is that just as susceptable if someone is using one of these relay attack devices?

Thanks!
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Firsthand experience with out-of-warranty battery replacement cost?

Hello all,

I'm trying to have an informed discussion with someone who asserts that replacing a Tesla battery out of warranty costs $25K. I've demonstrated that such replacements for Model 3/Y can be around $13K-$15K, but he's now moved the goal posts, calling those "stripped down" cars.

I've seen a few accounts of oow Model S battery replacements, and I know the costs can vary (new vs. remanufactured, etc). I think $25K is a little high.

Can anyone share (preferably) firsthand accounts of what it has actually cost to have one of these replaced (with a new or reconditioned battery) by Tesla? I'm tired of the FUD.

Thanks,

Todd

My Take on Tesla Model Y Suspension Over the Years

Hey everyone,

I often get asked about how the suspension feels on my Tesla Model Y Performance (MYP) and other year models I've owned. For context, I've had a 2021 Model Y Long Range (MYLR), a 2021 MYP, a 2023 MYP with comfort suspension, and now a 2024 MYP Austin-built in Quicksilver. Here’s my take on each, short and sweet:

2021 MYLR with 20s:
The suspension is rough. I mean, really rough. Going over any bump is like a field day in the back for passengers. It can be quite uncomfortable at times.

2021 MYP with 20s:
About the same as the MYLR, but with a bit more booming. It almost sounded and felt like the vehicle might fall apart at some point. Not the best experience, especially for a performance model.

2023 MYP with 20s:
Greatly improved. It’s almost perfect for a performance vehicle. It can still be rough at times, but it's nothing like the previous years. A noticeable upgrade from the 2021 models.

2024 MYP with 21s:
I’m not sure what kind of sorcery they have going on at Giga Texas, but it’s working! This vehicle is the most solid-feeling and quiet Tesla I’ve had out of the four, including the 2021 Model S Long Range Refresh I had. The steering feels incredibly smooth, and bumps are deadened instantly. I even tested it on the bumpiest road in Rhode Island, Rt 3 in West Warwick (if you know, you know), and it passed the test with an 8.5 out of 10.

It's great to see these vehicles getting better and better, addressing things we all experience and feel. Kudos to Tesla for the continuous improvements!

NOTE: If a mod sees this post, can you please update to reflect the Performance model in the title? Thank you ahead!

"New" 2023 with less warranty

Tesla hasn't responded yet, but I just bought a 2023 MXP with 19km on it. Sales rep said it was never a demo car and was just moved from storage lot to dealership and was put on display at front for the entire time.

However after I paid for it yesterday, they told me the warranty started in January in the app, and not May. Anyone else have this happen?

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