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  1. Krugerrand

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    You might want to take a look at yourself and this thread before casting stones. The EXACT same thing happens here when the SP doesn’t move in the desired direction of your (specific and general) options. When the SP goes down and you don’t want it to, it’s Elon and Tesla’s fault for an...
  2. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I disagree. We were all told to not talk about the ignore feature and all that is associated with it. I also disagree that you’ve inserted yourself in a conversation, where he’s specifically asked me questions, and that you’re not a part of with the intent to try and insult me. You didn’t by...
  3. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How would I know? I don’t speculate one way or another. I wait and see. I’m not defending him. I’m ACCEPTING his decisions and actions as the person who knows the most and is best suited to operate his business. When you’re running Tesla and have proven your talents for such, then and only...
  4. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I disagree. Since you aren’t in my head, you have no idea my intention - even though I stated it in the first post. You literally agreed with me, but somehow I’m trolling. 🙄
  5. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I disagree with your entire post. Partly, but not wholly, due to the fact you complain about the noise here by adding to it.
  6. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Look, I was happy to simply disagree with people like you that I know aren’t trolls, just don’t see the world of Tesla as I do, and move on. We wouldn’t be having this useless discussion now if the moderator hadn’t insisted. I don’t agree there’s 1 troll. There’s half a dozen off the top of...
  7. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Serve the many before the few. That’s the burden us mountaineers have to bear.
  8. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I disagree another company is a good idea or that even those 500 should be part of one. I disagree. Elon has always stated he was willing to help the OEMs as long as it was a fair exchange.
  9. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I disagree. X stuff is clearly not allowed here. Take it to the cesspool it belongs in. If you can’t reconcile business Elon with personal Elon, you know what to do.
  10. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I disagree. It’s more complicated than just cutting costs. As has been explained by Elon, multiple times over the years, including recently, that you’re blatantly ignoring is that to keep a company healthy you have to aggressively cull the herd to prevent waste, bloat, floaters and all that...
  11. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I completely disagree with your assessment of that troll. I believe he only throws in the odd ‘not obviously negative or passive aggressive’ post so that you and others think he’s here to help. Additionally, this space has never been an echo chamber or in danger of being an echo chamber and I...
  12. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    He’s the boss. He has more information than you or I. He has a proven track record moving Tesla forward, not you or I. I don’t care what you think about Tesla. I care what he thinks. I care what he does. I have no need to question his motives; again historical evidence. If he ever does...
  13. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This one is going to become interesting, especially if the trolls remain. 😉
  14. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Of course curiosity is allowed. I asked you straight up why you asked the question. You said you were curious. I said so it’s not important (agree, in the big scheme of things). So, where’s the issue? No. We don’t know. People are guessing. Is guessing a good thing for investing and/or...
  15. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Things change. Sometimes quickly and seemingly overnight. Everything is a moving target. Don’t know how else to say it to you.
  16. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So, not important in the scheme of anything. Valid to a certain extent. I could come up with dozens of reasons why it probably isn’t an issue. Can you come up with, say, three reasons from the other side? It’s an exercise in looking for a path forward that you may have overlooked by...
  17. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I’ve used non-Tesla chargers before without issue. Maybe my lack of angst because I mostly use others at destinations, rather than during critical travel points. Maybe I don’t have issues because I drive the better make of EV? Maybe it’s because I plan better, always having alternative...
  18. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why do you need to know the answers to those specific questions? You - specifically. And you don’t need to answer on the forum, it’s really just a question to ask yourself and then when you have the answer you’ll have a path forward.
  19. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes. Because we have bigger fish to fry. How cute of you to have forgotten that; A) Tesla never set out to do it all themselves B) Money is a means to an end, not the goal C) Much, much bigger sources of revenue are about to come into play Not Tesla’s problem. Not Tesla’s job to hold...
  20. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    As has been addressed already, there are people still working on the SC network. Relax.
  21. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Right!? Everyone thinks they know better. Don’t micromanage, Elon. Let your top executives carry their weight; it’ll be fine. Advertise, Elon. Do this kind of vehicle, Elon. Do that, Elon. Wrong. Every single time. Complacency. Comfort. Bloat. Inaction. Tradition. Yes, people of the I...
  22. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    People work there (and elsewhere) for a bunch of reasons. Once you’ve asked every single Tesla employee why they work there today, you’ve absolutely no idea or factual data on the topic. Stop inserting your reality into other people’s.
  23. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For those with angst, it’s proof they’ve never truly understood who or what they invested in. I’ve been waiting for an Elon overhaul. 🤗
  24. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    - or banned. Still waiting. There must not yet be a preponderance of evidence. 🤷
  25. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yeah, it seems completely wrong, useless, and illogical to just read/hear the words given. It’s so much more accurate to invent one’s own interpretative dance.
  26. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Pfft! I don’t nap. I have it. Not yet erected. I went with a Riga. Comes with the required German How To Assemble text book of 200pgs. 🙄 I’m going to see if I can assemble it by just reading every 4th page. As a matter of fact I am. Already been working in the forest for a couple of weeks...
  27. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You seem very unaware what this thread is for. Hint: not for discussion of The Former Bird and not to do your research for you on a company not relevant to Tesla.
  28. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Go look it up yourself and take it to the proper forum.
  29. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We’re well aware. Move it to the proper cesspool thread it belongs.
  30. Krugerrand

    SpaceX FH - Psyche - LC-39A

    As with the human species, not all of the feline species is particularly intelligent.
  31. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The button does not represent ‘dislike’. It represents ‘disagree’. Those two things are very different, though it’s quite possible I feel both. If the forum allowed multiple reactions then that would help. The moment you say something that evokes a feeling of like, laughter, helpfulness or...
  32. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Said nobody who’s driven a fossil fuel car (that feels like it’s gonna rattle apart) and needed to fuel in a sketchy place. Because we all know gas stations are a place where the best citizens of the planet love to congregate.
  33. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The disagree is mostly that Mr Black has proven to have no more clue today than he did yesterday what Tesla should be worth. It’s also because you linked to his nonsense.
  34. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And he’s mad. I love an angry Elon. 💩 gets done when he’s mad.
  35. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s what YOU think should be done. It’s clearly not how Elon sees it and he has way more information than you. He already told you why. Did you not read the various email excerpts posted here?
  36. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It’s hard firing ‘good’ employees. It’s remarkably easy firing not so good employees. I’ve done both. 1,000,000% we don’t have the whole story. And yet -
  37. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    BOTH are Elon. It’s just the most amazing coincidence that so many participants disappeared for green days since ER and then just as suddenly reappear for a red day.
  38. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s the way you want to play this? Are you sure? Even after one of your buddies tried to dig his way out by pointing out TSLA is up significantly since ER call and that today most everything is red.
  39. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You crazy. 🤪 I think it’s pretty reasonable for shareholders to: A) know the company they’re investing in beyond the most superficial level B) wait a hot second before jumping to conclusions C) sell if they don’t like or agree with what’s going on at said company
  40. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You know that Elon doesn’t believe in chain of command. Right? You know there are no manager/exec offices at Tesla, no closed doors. That he requires departments to work together not separately and on their own. Right? You also know that his view of managers and up are as facilitators for...
  41. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So they won’t build where they can’t do prefab (fill in whatever punctuation works for you).
  42. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It’s magic! A whisper of media negativity, a possibility of a red ticket day, and it returns. Absolutely has to be just a coincidence.
  43. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It’s magic! A whisper of media negativity, a possibility of a red ticket day, and it returns. Absolutely has to be just a coincidence.
  44. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Wait, what!? You mean there’s demand again? Like miraculously just appeared? 🤯 But I was promised Chinese demand was all dried up and absolutely no cars were put on boats the first three weeks of the quarter. Zip. Zero. Nada.
  45. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Triple dog dare you to infinity. You’ll note I’ve never made a prediction and I can’t actually remember Moonie making one either. How would you prefer me to tell you I don’t believe you and think you’re talking bs? I don’t believe you were long, that you timed selling perfectly, that you went...
  46. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It looks like I may get the ‘Try Better Next Time’ award. 😔 Either the first 100m shares and fakies was enough to reposition for a bit, or the tail got away and is dragging the dog into the street. However, there’s still a chance one of those Waymos runs over the tail and changes the outcome...
  47. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s not at all how Elon thinks. It’s not how he operates.
  48. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Again with the obtuseness. We absolutely know the technology is catching up because we factually know what the first attempt involved and the results, what the second attempt involved and the results, what the third attempt involved and the results etc… because they told us and many of us have...
  49. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    ‘Hard’ is not defined solely or even primarily by ‘time’. When all is said and done, we’ve no idea how Elon or anyone else at Tesla involved in it all will view The 9 Circles Of Production Hell vs solving FSD vs the endless list of other solved problems. To date, Elon still views the early...