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So to clarify, your assessment is that removing 2-300 lbs. of drive unit slung over the front axle does NOT meaningfully impact turn in or driving dynamics? People are allowed to have different opinions. Fast GT cars are great. I just find there is always a faster one around the corner. This...

I posted something similar a few (dozen) pages ago. This car, exactly how it's spec'd now with just the front drive unit removed would be epic. I drove an AWD and RWD Highland back to back and the RWD car feels way sportier as it rotates so much more readily. I don't personally understand the...

While I agree, my experience is that generally your order will automatically have the most favorable pricing applied up until you take delivery. Had I ordered a red / white, I feel like I absolutely could have advocated to have the white interior for free now. This kind of confusion is another...

Random question. I have an order for an Ultra Red with black interior for $54,990. With the white interior now being free, is there any chance Tesla would let me update my order to add the white interior at no cost? Or would any updates automatically have to be applied at the new pricing.

This is a fine opinion. I have a different one: The unprecedented overnight 20% price drop on Teslas that occurred last year destabilized the entire EV market, hurting existing owners, dealers, and competitors. "So what" many people say, "Tesla is a business and out for blood". Well, the entire...

It doesn't matter how Tesla justifies it. These practices will continue to ensure that resale is abysmal.

Nooooooooooo. The HVAC in our leased 2020 Model Y smells terrible, like a hot gym sock full of old Mexican food. Wife refers to it as the "vinegar panties" smell. Our 2023 Model Y had no such issue with the HEPA filter, which is actually one of my favorite parts of Model Y. Makes you impervious...

Took another test drive today of the RWD Highland and while the car is lovely, the turn signals are just as awful as Cammisa says. All they had to do was make one touch point convex and the other concave and it would have been fine. Instead, they made them totally smooth, with the point to...

It was a 22. It had some miles on it, but seemed relatively well taken care of. I liked the tilting screen as well but we were just shocked how firm and busy the ride still was (on the base wheels) and how much road noise still got in. I also like Model X and think that vehicle feels newer, more...

We rented a pretty new Model S while on vacation and were SUPER disappointed with it. Handles like a boat. Parks like a boat. Creaked and rattled like an old boat. Air ride in comfort seemed less cush than our Highland test drive. Still loud at speed and the sound system seemed no better than...

I fought with Tesla to get the FDU replaced for 4 months and it did not fix the issue for me. I informed them of this and they looked at me like I was crazy. We even bought a new Model Y and it still has the issue. To me, three FDUs across 14 months all having the issue suggests this is how...

Just a random thought. I think if I could have Tesla build me any configuration of their currently available hardware, it would be this Performance trim without a front drive unit. I bet the new rear motor would still get to 60 in under 4 seconds and you'd get a sportier front end with sweeter...

Yep, can confirm I was dumb. Just needed to select "myself" and enter desired info, it doesn't auto-populate based on the account.

Question sounds (and is) dumb but here's the issue. Want to replace my wife's leased Model Y with a purchased M3P. We ordered the M3P on her account, in order to get lease-end benefits of reduced wear / tear costs and skipping last payment. The issue is that I want the car financed and...

I ordered Red with black as well, even though I am a die hard white seat fan. We have an Ultra Red Model Y with white seats and the new red color is shockingly beautiful. I waffled quite a bit on settling for Stealth Grey to get the white seats as it looks quite nice when it is pristine clean...

Survey says....MAY.

With end of April promotion, I can lease a RWD M3 here in NYS for zero down, $350 a month. I am willing to bet the Ludicrous will be more than double that amount. I personally found the RWD Highland to be deeply impressive and very fun to drive. It would also be immune from the front end screech...

Reports from a few weeks ago put the release in May. Has anyone seen anything remotely concrete to suggest this week? Speculation about trying to leverage the release to buoy a brutal earning calls seems a bit fanboi-wishful to me. Also I've been in Tesla's corner for a good long while and the...

All the Model 3 Performance ever needed was more supportive seats, more sophisticated suspension, and a little more oomph up top. It sure seems like it's getting all of these things, in addition to the underlying Highland updates. For me, the risk of disappointment lies not in the endless #ick...

Another oddity I've noticed is the noise seems to disappear if it's raining out, and not just because of the added road noise.

My primary problem with a $60K Model 3 is this is no longer the good old days of Teslas holding their value. Tesla's merciless price drops combined with the POS tax credits and the media trashing EVs means any new 3/Y purchase could very likely lose 40% value within 12 months. It's possible a...

Could be the camera angle but it seems like it might be the first Model 3 to have a seat bottom that's long enough for adult humans.

To me, fun = engagement, ideally at around town speed. Cars like GR86, Miata, CTR, or even Giulia are all pretty engaging to operate in everyday traffic, but you're usually paying heavily in comfort and convenience. Vehicles like modern BMWs and Audis have traded engagement for refinement and...

Bespoke motors, seats, and dampers? My bet is $59,990.

Tesla is not going to do anything for anyone. This "defect" is in thousands upon thousands of cars. As an example, DirtyTesla recently posted about selling his Model Y for his CT and mentioned his rear drive unit had a very unpleasant high pitched whine. Tesla offering a fix at this point would...

So after having a hissy fit about never buying another Tesla again, we obviously bought another Tesla. Test drove a bunch of vehicles to try and trade our MY for and were reminded how many annoyances there are with non-Tesla vehicles. Instead, we actually traded ours in on an inventory vehicle...

Just found out our 2023 Model Y LR with 10K miles that we paid $54K for a year ago is now worth $30K on trade. Tax rebates have obliterted resale value. Can't see ourselves buying another Tesla anytime soon.

The odds of replacing one faulty drive unit with a second that is immediately faulty out of the box, is essentially zero. To me, this points at them not actually replacing it until the "second" go around. I have also had enough interracions with Tesla as a company over the last 5 years that I...

I agree that it could be a bearing issue due to higher lube viscosity or thermal contraction in the cold. If that was the case though, wouldn't a front DU replacement immediately solve the issue? It did nothing for me and has actually made my issue worse, happening slightly less loud but at a...

So after having the "replacement" front drive unit in our 2023 MYLR not eliminate the noise, we are now starting to hear a similar noise in our 2021 MYLR. Does not bode well for finding a resolution to the issue.

We just got our 2023 Model Y LR back from having the front drive unit replaced. The noise could still be heard, particularly on regen, despite it being nearly 60F outside. We are heartbroken.

My question is if I have any legal recourse if I cannot get Tesla to admit there is an issue? Assume I can't take it to an independent shop and have them document the issue, for the purpose of pursuing lemon?

IMO, people should hold off another 6 months, when the significant suspension improvement from the Highland Model 3 make their way to the Model Y.

So my vehicle normally resides in our garage at night but last night we left it outside. It got down into the 40s overnight and even after preheating/defrosting for 15 min before hand, the noise was back in full force, worse than ever on my short trip to work. Loud enough where I had to turn...

Agree. My noise comes on first thing in the morning as soon as the temp dips below 65F. It's most present from 50 to 70 mph for my vehicle, generally under very light power / Regen, such as when maintaining speed on the highway. It has been 90% better during the summer, though I can still hear...

My noise comes and goesound 68-70 dgrees. It will be faint in the morning leaving from my garage and gone when I drive home from work after it sat in the sun all day. IMO, it will return 100% when temps dip back down. I'm planning to make another service appointment when it's cold out and leave...

As did we. Honestly at this point I'm hopeful you're just a bot.

I'm similarly proportioned at 6'2" with a 33" inseam and 175 lbs. I still struggle with finding my perfect driving position, even 2 years in, though can generally get by without too much discomfort. For my previous GTI and Giulia, I also had the seats pretty much slammed with a bit of rake for...

Dealerships are worse when it comes to buying a car. Tesla is worse when it comes to service, which is why the joke is "in-spec". Buying a $60K vehicle that squeals like a rusty wagon and being told it's operating as designed is an absolute joke.

People ask me all the time how I like my Tesla. I tell them the cars are amazing if you can get a good one but the QC is horrendous and they treat their customers like garbage. Part of the issue here is the service centers are owned by Tesla. An independent dealer would be much more motivated to...

I run mine at 36/37 PSI cold, which is just above where the "Low Pressure" warning comes on. It makes a big difference in ride comfort, which I find becomes very harsh above 40 PSI.

Nothing helpful on my end, but I finally took mine in and had exactly the experience others in the thread had. -It was a warm day and the car heated up on the way to the service center. Didn't make the noise as distinctly on the ride-along -Rough highway near service center made the noise...

To clarify, they were sympathetic in person but didn't try to fix it at all. Just ran diagnostic on the HVAC system and said it was fine. The only fix is a new front drive unit and because that's so expensive, Tesla will fight tooth and nail not to do it. Mine only does it early in the morning...

I have this and just had my first appointment to try to get it fixed. They were sympathetic on ride along and told me they'd figure it out. Kept the car ten minutes and just gave it back to me. This is our third Tesla and we're pretty gutted about it.

Thank you for taking the time to bring this issue to everyone's attention. It definitely seems like a "California Car" type oversight and is fully unacceptable considering the age of the vehicle and the possible ramifications of a brake line failure. Having salt packed into those crevices year...

My buttons have been pretty buggy in my 23 Model Y. 1) My hands-on auto-pilot button started engaging the annoying cow-bell gimmick, with only a single press. 2) I have a 4 second door-hold that opens the frunk enabled. Yesterday when I engaged Park pulling into work, the car honked and the...

Not sure. I personally find the high frequency and chattering starting and stopping far more distracting and unpleasant than the typical rattles or creaks you get with most cars. If I was pursuing legal action, I would record the sound with a high quality microphone so you can visually...

I stuffed small Harbor freight moving blankets in the left and right trunk pockets and a larger one in the sub trunk and noticed a startling reduction in noise.

We only have 1 service center within several hundred miles, so we would likely have a tough time getting lemon law to stick.

Our ~2 month old '23 MYLR does this and it's brutal. Please let us know if you make any progress.