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It's a bit hard to continue existing rollouts, when there no one left to even reply to emails from Supply Authorities about Tesla Supercharger installs.

Kyle reads a message from a Supply Authority employee at 9:40 mark. All emails to Tesla Charging are bouncing. Supply Authorities have no idea how to get Charger Supply status.

This is going to kill any confidence in anyone spec'ing Tesla Superchargers.

It was also interesting when he says that none of the contractors with large contracts can contact anyone to find out what’s going on, but then he reads out messages he has from the ex-employees etc and from linked in.

He seems pretty well connected
 
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That’s a strawman, because who has ever claimed that is it Tesla’s responsibility to build charging infrastructure for the planet? No-one here has.

The point is that the SC network was clearly part of the Tesla brand halo. It works seamlessly with the vehicles and has the best uptime in the industry. It was clearly adding value and was a motivator for attracting new buyers and keeping repeat buyers.

So in what universe does it make sense to knife the entire thing?

And Elon’s tweets on this are vague and non-committal about what happens next.

There are reports that SC contractors in the USA are getting bounced emails, because the people in Tesla they were talking to regarding contractual, construction, permitting, accounting or any other matter have been fired. When that happens, what contractor is going to finish jobs that were in progress?

These things don’t build and maintain themselves. It takes many people even to keep it running and pay the bills, let alone expand existing sites. But it seems they are all gone - a massive loss of institutional knowledge and experience from which it could easily take 1-2 years to recover, if Elon’s slower build/expansion focus is actually true and he discovers for himself (no-one can tell Elon anything, apparently, until he discovers it himself) that he has to re-hire a lot of the people/functions he just fired.
I guess time will tell.

It’s not like they are turning off and ripping out all the superchargers, but yes certainly a weird thing to do
 
The impacts of this tantrum decision are real and immediate. This is not just rumour, innuendo, or internet gossip. This is not some simple blip and we ‘just need to wait to see what happens when the dust settles’. Real businesses are being impacted, right now.


Andres Pinter, co-CEO of Supercharger network contractor Bullet EV, told CNBC, “My team woke up to a sharp kick in the pants this morning. Emails we sent to twenty or so different charger construction contacts were bounced with the same autoreply reading, ‘This email address is no longer valid. Any future emails sent to this address will not be received.’”
 
And from Don Burke:

It's not just the supercharger team. The firings included the entire team that runs the commercial destination charger program. We are right in the middle of deploying four Tesla Universal HPWCs at our condominium. All emails are bouncing. WTF are we supposed to do? Will @tesla_na be honoring this contract? Will they be supporting this charging platform going forward? Who is our POC now? How do we commission the HPWCs? I assume every business and hotel with Tesla destination chargers is similarly affected.
@elonmusk, how will Tesla make this right for folks businesses, apartments, and condos that put their trust in Tesla for their destination charging needs?
 
Some emails bouncing isn't the end of the world.

All we know at this point is that a large number of the SC team got fired.

We only have rumour and speculation as to why and what led up to it with no hard facts to back any of it up. We have zero clue if/what plans are in place, is it tied to the recent China trip for example, where they are producing these things? Is the expansion planned for battery pack builds linked in?

We have zero clue what other plans are in place, could even be a whole spin off company to deal with Supercharging, all just pure speculation which we can sit around all day doing or we can just wait for everything to settle and the facts to emerge.
 
Some emails bouncing isn't the end of the world.

All we know at this point is that a large number of the SC team got fired.

We only have rumour and speculation as to why and what led up to it with no hard facts to back any of it up. We have zero clue if/what plans are in place, is it tied to the recent China trip for example, where they are producing these things? Is the expansion planned for battery pack builds linked in?

We have zero clue what other plans are in place, could even be a whole spin off company to deal with Supercharging, all just pure speculation which we can sit around all day doing or we can just wait for everything to settle and the facts to emerge.
Exactly. Emails bounce when employment it terminated and network access removed.

There could be a factory in China with a new engineering team pumping out something better. Who knows.
 
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It's a bit hard to continue existing rollouts, when there no one left to even reply to emails from Supply Authorities about Tesla Supercharger installs.

Kyle reads a message from a Supply Authority employee at 9:40 mark. All emails to Tesla Charging are bouncing. Supply Authorities have no idea how to get Charger Supply status.

This is going to kill any confidence in anyone spec'ing Tesla Superchargers.

Yeah. Rome wasn’t re-built in a day 🤣. That’s how Elon rolls. Notice that actual Tesla customers aren’t impacted by this (unlike the time Elon personally yanked Twitter servers off-line in Sacramento and the app had stability issues). You can still go out today and supercharge on sites with 99% uptime (the SC maintenance team is still there).

Meanwhile, in the weeks and months ahead, the team will be re-built and contracts will be renegotiated/cancelled/executed as the case may be. That’s why we have signed contracts for, with appropriate clauses for each of these situations. Also meanwhile, Kyle can get some clicks by showing us how the sausage is made. But does a regular customer really want to know how the sausage is made as long he/she is served on time?
 
Yeah. Rome wasn’t re-built in a day 🤣. That’s how Elon rolls. Notice that actual Tesla customers aren’t impacted by this (unlike the time Elon personally yanked Twitter servers off-line in Sacramento and the app had stability issues). You can still go out today and supercharge on sites with 99% uptime (the SC maintenance team is still there).

Meanwhile, in the weeks and months ahead, the team will be re-built and contracts will be renegotiated/cancelled/executed as the case may be. That’s why we have signed contracts for, with appropriate clauses for each of these situations. Also meanwhile, Kyle can get some clicks by showing us how the sausage is made. But does a regular customer really want to know how the sausage is made as long he/she is served on time?
He sure does like walking backwards and forwards while talking ;)
 
But does a regular customer really want to know how the sausage is made as long he/she is served on time?
Problem is. What happens when they stop making the sausages, but people are still buying the buns to put the sausage in. There is going to be a sausage shortage. 🤣

Nothing will be impacted today. But as people continue buying Tesla's. Unless the charging network keeps growing, we are not going to be served on time.
 
Problem is. What happens when they stop making the sausages, but people are still buying the buns to put the sausage in. There is going to be a sausage shortage. 🤣

Nothing will be impacted today. But as people continue buying Tesla's. Unless the charging network keeps growing, we are not going to be served on time.
IF this did happen there will be new factories making buns to put your sausage in :)
 
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Musk is just an eccentric person (that's both a blessing and a curse depending on what he is attempting), he's got too much going on in his head and it is showing, it's time for a steady hand to take over Tesla. Tesla has been established, it's successful and now needs the a person who is committed to Tesla only. Someone who isn't also thinking about robots. AI, global internet, rockets and trips to Mars all at the same time.

A sane person would have to agree one person doesn't have time for all of that.
 
Problem is. What happens when they stop making the sausages, but people are still buying the buns to put the sausage in
That would be a potential problem but at this point there is zero evidence that is even a remote possibility.

The 'sausages' are being produced in China by a completely different team and I doubt very much there will be any significant pause in their production. Again all pure speculation at this point.
 
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I doubt the sky will fall - building a charging network is a long-game. It takes years for some sites to get from planning to completion.

What it does illustrate though, for those who may not have noticed already, is that putting all your eggs in a basket tightly controlled by an eccentric individual is not completely wise.

It's great that Elon built an electric car - now we need other companies to compete.
It's great that Elon built re-usable rockets - now we need other companies to compete.
It's great that Elon built a broadband satellite network - now we need other companies to compete.
It's great that Elon built a charging network - now we need other companies to compete.

If this little event wakes people up a little to make sure that there are good alternative EV charging networks in Australia, then it might be a blessing in disguise.

If the capital required doesn't meet the business plans of commercial entities, then it should be the role of Government to kick-start it. Yes I know they have been doing that, but at a laughable scale.
 
Musk is just an eccentric person (that's both a blessing and a curse depending on what he is attempting), he's got too much going on in his head and it is showing, it's time for a steady hand to take over Tesla. Tesla has been established, it's successful and now needs the a person who is committed to Tesla only. Someone who isn't also thinking about robots. AI, global internet, rockets and trips to Mars all at the same time.

A sane person would have to agree one person doesn't have time for all of that.
Completely disagree.

Knowing a few people in Tesla (including one who was recently laid off and still speaks very glowingly of Musk) Musk IS Tesla, he is still extremely heavily involved and thrives on the multitasking. It's extremely clear if you follow anything he has done that focus on one task is not how he works best and in crisis mode is where he really shines.

A change in CEO would be the dumbest possible move ever and would set Tesla back at least a decade.
 
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