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The only way this will work is if Tesla can demonstrate a steady stream of drivers who are prepared to use (and pay for?) the Charger. IMO Tesla will struggle to deliver a steady stream of drivers because the numbers of cars on the road will be small for many years.It does not seem like a hard sell to me. I would think that locations like casinos could be easily enticed into footing some of the cost.
A friend of mine who was high up with one of the railroads pointed out to me that the maximum range of a railroad engines back in the day used to be about 150 miles and therefore when you look there's a significant city typically every 150 miles or so (these cities sprang up around the railroad depots).
on my meeting with tesla , i tried a further discussion about the need for 3-ph in Europe. JB Straubel mentioned the importance of high level fast DC charging and they will setup of fast DC charger to wipe out the need for charing with more than 10kW even in Europe. Because more then 95% of all charging will be done at home or office, only little extra charging will be needed on long distance travel. The smallest range is 160m. I think they start with 300miles between each nodes and will expand it to 150miles later. Because of using same mass-producted 10kW onboard charger the cost of the 90kW DC fast charger is much lower as any other. Hope only Tesla makes the new DC charging network available to the current Tesla Owner too. 80% SOC in 30-45min cool.
With respect you seem to have backed away completely from your demand for 3-Phase support on the Model S. Am I wrong or have you accepted that Tesla will never support 3-Phase and we have to accept the proprietary DC Charging system?on my meeting with tesla , i tried a further discussion about the need for 3-ph in Europe.
are you being sarcastic or do you really believe that Tesla can deploy a usable proprietary Fast Charge network across Europe?Welcome to the future!
are you being sarcastic or do you really believe that Tesla can deploy a usable proprietary Fast Charge network across Europe?
It took more than 2 years of voluntary effort by Tesla owners and enthusiasts to get the HPC network deployed in the UK - the first national network anywhere in the world. Even today it has some gaps that Tesla have been unable to fill, indeed we see no indication that the network will expand unless we do it ourselves. IMO Tesla have no idea what it takes to deploy infrastructure.Why would they not?
Another thought not brought up: I wonder how owners and Tesla will feel when owners of other cars (Nissan, BMW, etc) design a workable adapter for the Tesla DC charging system?
Will,
Eberhard already brought up that idea. This will end somewhere near 50kg ~100lbs (3x charger a 15kg in a casing plus some cabling and plugs). Too heavy to lug around in the trunk/frunk and too expensive to leave it outside the car for ~3hours (remember any Tesla key fob will unlock the plug from the charge port).
The idea with modular 10kw chargers is all nice, but for 3 phase DC charger to be portable we need a more refined design. I'm afraid such a device will end up with extra cost, late availability, limited numbers, and poor support from Tesla.
Luckily, 100 chargers at $20,000 each is only $2 million. They need willing hosts to shoulder the costs of individual installations.