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Just a little humor to start the week. ( I know the reports are that the low interest rate is working so don't get stupid)

My main rebuttal has been I did invest, and I will invest. My decisions are not any different than an investor. I look at the actual facts that are real world/market to decide when and where to invest. I do not look at market metrics, which is how I differentiate between an investor and a...

We only differ in what we see happening. You see something coming, and have no confidence in when. I see the same thing, but NOT soon. And I "see" retail investors abandoning Tesla for months to come. And come on man? A "demo" by Elon make "investing" in TSLA more likely? No. Flat out "NO."...

Your "beliefs" are just that. And they fit into the religion scheme. Religions: Do what we say till you die, then get your pay-out. I'd rather set goals in life, and adjust them as the environment change. Kudos to all those that have been able to deny themselves a pulled pork sammich because...

Well there we differ. You refer to the changes as "upgrades." I refer to the as F-ups.

On "investing" vs "Trading." It seems obvious to me or am I wrong? I get labelled a "trader" if I can clearly see (And believed Elon a year ago when he said it was going to be a rough year ahead for TSLA stockholders) that the EV market is not going to be a place to have ANY money for at...

I keep getting BS updates on the EV Silverado. The two reasons I still have a place in line for a Cyberturd is that by the time my number is called the turd will have gone through "upgrades," and that FSD will compensate for a lot of the piss poor design in the turd.

When Elon takes a dump(Cyberturd) on purpose then he is the subject. You can't blame the turd.

Someone got any real insight as to what I just experienced/noticed? This was the first time I did not have to go hunting for a way to vote my TSLA shares. I literally clicked on an email and was taken to an easily understood voting "ballot." ANd the votes were recorded without any worries as...

So TSLA went up 10% in a matter of hours based on Tesla FSD moving forward in China? China? This price movement is based on whose investment model? DO they have a clue what China will require "FSD" to become IN China? China? FSD? worth 63 Billion dollars? This stock price is a joke...

I am gullible? I believed Elon about the Cyberturd...and now I am believing Chevrolet.

exactly... Fools and their money. But in all seriousness BYD should make one for $8k. It would be an opportunity to get their product in a consumer market they have no presence. If they are better than the "GEM" ones then the owners will eventually look at the EV's.

Honestly. BYD could sell gigailions of $10k luxury electric vehicles in the USA if my town is the norm. Greater than 25% of the homes around here have a third vehicle that is a "fast" electric golf cart licensed by the City's Police Department. BYD could put a 2/3's smaller battery, and a...

Now, I see that for what it is.... A more than 10% reduction in HR!

Let me wait till the end of the quarter before I dismiss your post.

The "touted" ability of the Cyberturd during initial presentation had me placing a deposit on one just so I could sit in the driveway during a Hurricane.

LOL... I never mentioned other manufacturers or their products... Tesla/Elon had another TWO years during COVID to get the vehicle (not a truck) so it could be "close" to what he touted. And the "Founder's Edition" isn't close, even when it costs considerably more. The vehicle they have now? It...

I do not need to hear from Cyber(NOTA)truck owners or those that are still defending this shard of stainless shite as what Elon/Tesla stated those of us that put down our deposits would get... I am not here complaining about Tesla. Actually quite the opposite from my position. The last few...

That IS my idea of a Tesla camper.

The turdneau cover is not waterproof, and has been shown to be dodgy at opening and closing. And I doubt it was ever designed for more than the casual Rhinestone Cowboy to use so it won't hold up. But yeah, go ahead, they were dumb enough to design, you can be dumb enough to buy it...and use...

If you have read any of my posts on the cyberturd you know I find it to be....disappointing. So consider what I write next as from someone that already dislikes how the "Designers" screwed over the engineers. The cyberturd is still a very disappointing vehicle, but damn if it isn't built well...

The turd does not have a midgate because the asshats working for Musk didn't stand up to him when he proposed a leaking rolling door as the cover for the turd's trunk. The cyberturd was built around the rolling door. The turd functions as rolling door carrier that can also carry some people. An...

The tailgate is even worse than that as it was shown on the reveal to have an enclosed ramp. The cyberturd was created because Elon got disenchanted with the toy. The Turd is just a turd.

What yahoo finance posted on my TSLA page today. Stock performances since exactly 5 years ago TSLA up 857% S&P up 85% You old codgers can sit on your sacks in comfort.

Glad to know!!!!!!!!!

I actually used to have a car that was "legend" while I attended Auburn. It was a 1971 510 Datsun. It was supposed to be red but was so old it was mainly a dusty primer gray. One day while I was high two nursing student females knocked on the door and asked if they could "paint my car." They...

I did not know this was the rose-colored glasses Tesla lovefest?

The major pick-up manufacturers do not have a lid over their bed like the Cyberturd has over its trunk(not a bed). The Turdneau cover's track at the wall between the Trunk and Passenger area is the biggest impediment to being able to use the Cyberturd's TRUNK. It is like Elon specifically...

Or how else did someone not go, "Elon, you're kidding right? There are some serious issues."

Hey. I just went back to the future and was listening to Elon talk to his engineers_ ELON: I thought of something no one else has thought of. And I want it to be part of the Cyberturd. What if the Hub cap came out over the wheel. I mean how cool is that. No one else has ever thought of it! Am...

The turdneau cover is not air or water tight. Which might be why Elon nixed even a sliding rear window to allow the trunk to be used (at all). You'd train the battery "cooling" the outdoors. And again. A tent is not secure. From what we can see, the design of the cyberturd was to create a weird...

BE NICE!

The haters only talk about the rusting IF they bought a cyber(NOTA)truck. Range Towing Hauling And all the horse crap about the cyber(NOTA)truck But yeah I am beside myself with how the VAST, and I mean VAST, majority of Cyber(NOTA)truck reservation holders stated repeatedly how they were...

Ya gotta find a new level of "HUH?" when you look at how far the Cyberturd's Stainless steel surface has gone from "it won't even need washing. Just let it for a nice natural honest patina." To Wrapping, ceramic coating, buffing, washing as soon as you get it, etc etc etephingsetera. All the...

I "imagine" that there are huge "improvements".. that should have been solved over the FOUR years Tesla lied to us and kept stating, "We're working on it." Elon can't run all the companies/interests he has. He's being piss poor in all of them now. It used to be that Tesla, SpaceX and the...

The best part is no part (or at least a couple of hundred fewer MOVING parts than a turdneau cover). By Tesla logic you just showed how terrible the turdneau is.

you left out an "un"?

(Today)You'd be a great YouTuber! lol

I'd feel much better if I could lie to myself. BTW how are you all feeling today? I'd really love to be here trying to figure out when my 2019 design Cyber(NOTA)truck would be available. Ya all should be the ones that are the most upset and worried. I'm actually hoping Tesla acknowledges their...

I was firmly in the camp of, "I will never have to waste time keeping my cyber(nota)truck presentable. No wrap, no coating, just a nice honest patina." Where are those guys? And I was with the majority on that. I noted how bad the Turdneau cover would look. And the boys that ain't cleaning...

SO? You getting mighty friendly with that Frunk? You gave it a name? Hugh?

OK, one more time. The Cyberturd's frunk does appear to be small. And that is not really ideal. BUT if the "Designers/engineers" of the Cyberturd had to make it that small because that is all the room that wasn't being taken up by all the mechanical stuff under the hood then I can fully...

I just feel real disappointed that the "truck" was designed and engineered to be a 40 yr old soccer mom's van that looked "so cool" that her husband could be somebody when he got to drive it.

Now I have seen three videos of the turdneau cover becoming an even bigger eyesore because unless you go completely Felix Unger about it then it is a dirt and leaf magnet. It is even worse than I thought.... The technobois be like, "I got this beautifully wrapped turd, but man I can't do...

You are GETTING waaaay ahead of yourself. First let's see whether the space is being used for something MORE important like the steer by wire module and the "octopus valve." If they gave the "Cybertruck owners" all the space available then the engineers/Designers did well. If they could have...

Agreed it is very small. But when someone finally gets their Cyberturd (Poking SANDY here) They'll finally show us that behind the small frunk is all the guts of the Cyberturd so the frunk was all the space they had for it without making a long hood. And I'd call that engineering decision a very...

"Pragmatists"? :ove it. Now if only the fanbois would wipe the "sugar" out of their eyes and see that.

It will appear as if one of the fanbois seduced me when you read this: I can see the big boys passing Tesla with regularity in regard to some metrics. But software is still a leader for Tesla. AND the biggest hope I have for Tesla and TSLA is if/when they do develop and perfect the...

As to "When will FSD be finished enough for Government approval?" Long before that it will have flipped TWO switches. 1 It will feel like it should be 2 And once it actually feels like it the stock will no longer be in the clutches of the MM's because institutions will buy a...