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We discussed that earlier. It is not so tiny; it can cause catastrophic accidents. Manhole covers are prevalent in every major city with underground utility infrastructure.

It's not as binary as you want to make it. Waymo's will not (shouldn't) run a red light, but it will if that is the "safest" action needed to get out of a situation. We know remote assistance can "override" certain actions Waymo wouldn't traditionally do. That's not to say they don't make...

An impressive demonstration of pose estimation and scene understanding by Waymo.

I’m fully aware what he’s talking about and I’m saying you cannot hide how bad your system performs on public roads. It is literally impossible and has been proven time and time again. Disengagement just means the system was disengaged. It could be for any given reason. We’ve had people on this...

You're in this very thread talking about it, there is no secret. These systems are being tested on public roads so none of these companies who are testing L4 systems on public road can hide how bad their systems are. Uber couldn't hide, Cruise couldn't hide it and Waymo who has been doing this...

Disengagement reports are useful in evaluating these systems. If a safety personnel was in the driver's seat, they would have rightly disengaged the system when it makes those mistakes so they will count as disengagements. We are talking about L4 systems without safety personnel in the loop...

Yea a lot of people seem to think robo taxi is just driving but there is an infrastructure and logistics behind the service itself that needs to be solved. What impressed me the most was how very little time between when you request a car to when one is dispatched out by the dispatcher which I...

How Waymo operates autonomously in the Depot. Basically, the cars go back to the depot to wait autonomously and leave when called for a pickup. Most of the depot operations like parking to charge are autonomous as well. Pretty detailed video that’s never been shown before of waymo operations.

Faster and faster expansion.

Yup, i hope all AV companies are solving for this too, it can be really bad. I don't really consider this to be an edge case but that's just my assumption that it occurs more often than people realize. In big cities where there are lot of utility line underground like NY.

We don't need to complicate it. It drove over an open manhole cover and the tire either went in or lifted a partially open lid and the undercarriage got damaged. Just a reminder of how bad it can be depending on fast you are going.

In 2017 Google published The Transformer architecture paper Attention is All you Need, which kick started much of the AI revolution including GPT, FSD, Generative AI that we all use today. They are back at it again with another paper for a new architecture called Griffin, which they claim...

That is a very clean parking maneuver. Took ~20 seconds from discovering where it wanted to park to completing the parking.

Waymo and Uber are expanding on their partnership and offering Uber Eats food delivery with autonomous Waymo vehicles Starting today.

I imagine something like "two irresponsible Tesla owners are sitting in the back seat while their vehicles on FSD beta attempts not to crash into each other". But since FSDb is not L4, we would never know now, would we?

You are both saying the same things but in different ways. Sensor processing is the most computationally expensive. Well with high resolution sensors as well the type of architecture and software you need to process the volume of data coming in realtime plays a role in how much compute you...

I was about to say the same thing. It would be a testing ground to see how their service and infrastructure holds up to servicing large locations. I think this might be the new normal now, expanding in larger areas. From this 2019 To this 2022/2023 To 2024

It's "the same board" just not populated completely because they don't plan on retrofitting those cars.

Liability reasons. You already see how much pushback Waymo is getting just by driving on regular road, add crossing boundary into people's private property. I think the Waymo driver handled it by itself. Waymo's do have the capability to resolve issues on their own. I believe so because it took...

Another example of Waymo refusing to cross the road edge boundary whereas we see humans driving on the curb to get by the roadblock. Similar situation to the alley incident where Waymo will not cross the road edge into a private property instead backed all the way out vs here doing the 3 points...

GM Super Cruise map update. Old 400K miles New 750K miles

Is this where we pretend that any proof provided to you will satisfy you? When you don’t even accept Tesla telling you on their own website that FDSb is not autonomous as proof.

It is a L2 ADAS system that people have misused to their own peril and in many cases has led their death.

That is a nonsensical point to make because a Tesla cannot drive by itself anywhere on this planet. I know this because Tesla says so.

So, something like this by Tesla stating that the feature is not autonomous and requires constant supervision by a driver? https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-2CB60804-9CEA-4F4B-8B04-09B991368DC5.html https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot

Legally you who engaged the feature is driving even when your hands and feet do not touch the steering or brake. Super Cruise is literally hands free; you are still considered the driver because you engaged a L2 system. The expectation is that you are monitoring and will intervein as necessary...

You answered your own question. If FSDb was L4, even if you engaged the feature and strapped 4 bags of rice in the passenger seats, the software is legally responsible for whatever happens. As it is L2, you are personally responsible for whatever happens. In the same way you can use summon...

This thing is not even up for debate. It's like conversing with a flat earther. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-2CB60804-9CEA-4F4B-8B04-09B991368DC5.html https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot They are not just saying that to avoid regulation. They literally can't do...

Cook is not talking nonsense. He is just not a sycophant. Do you know what actually prevents climate change? Progressive policies and laws that regulate massive businesses and promote EV growth. Do you know what stops world wars? Progressive policies that foster international relationships. Do...

In a statement, Waymo, based in Mountain View, said their vehicle was at a complete stop at a four-way intersection. "An oncoming large truck progressed through the intersection in our direction and then at our turn to proceed, we moved into the intersection. The cyclist was occluded by the...

https://patents.justia.com/patent/11854390

I'm not talking about that situation, I already addressed that previously. My speculation in that situation is that the vehicle cannot go into private property. There is no change in the roadway just a car blocking part of a one-way street. The vehicle does not want to cross the boundary into a...

Waymo vehicles can remap and update drivable spaces on the fly. https://patents.justia.com/patent/11853070

You are basically making up what the passenger says. Kevin Chen: "so I think the thing is, if you look at here, it's like even though we could probably kind of cut into the driveway on the left a bit, uh its drawn as a road boundary so I wonder if that's uh related why we are not willing to um...

Oh no, not just Teslas fans. He himself was the originator of that misinformation about waymo. He famously said HD Map has to include leafs on a friggin tree and not scalable because mapping is so hard and not scalable, yet now he says this: Also he has nuked the page. Lol

This is fantastic to read. Clearly defined ODD.

That’s a massive expansion.

They don't share that information but looks to me like ~Full HD or ~2.1mp cameras which is ~2x the resolution of HW3/4 cameras. That said, it's not about the resolution of the cameras though that helps in resolving details in the distance, it's about the capabilities built into their perception...

Yup, it's pretty cool all of the things these systems can detect and classify. And that's not really the hard part, relatively speaking, the hard part is using all that information to drive safely. It's too bad all these information is hidden behind simple UI because the passenger really does...

The post you responded to does not say it is proof, it simply states Waymo obeys hand signals from police. It does not state it is the absolute fact but based on prior knowledge on how the system is designed to operate, you can conclude that Waymo is responding to the traffic control personnel...

They indeed do understand if the person is relevant. I'll use Zoox for example where they discuss pose estimation, classification and semantic understanding.

I'll save you the time. There is none. Elon Musk is a professional salesman just like Steve Jobs. There are teams of engineers who do the work. Don't get me wrong we need those sorts of people who have the money and ability to inspire and motivate to get things done. But these people tend to...

I think both of you are saying the same thing but in different ways. Waymo can handle inclement weather in general as part of their ODD hence they have not specified, low, mid and high. There was a time when rain was not part of Waymo's ODD. If it starts to drizzle just slightly, the car will...

Technical difficulties maybe?

Mobileye roadmap/portfolio

Seems we're on a redundancy train, here is a good read on redundancy. It is a well understood problem and there are various ways to achieve it. This is the process NASA used in designing the redundancy systems of the space shuttle. Computers in Spaceflight: The NASA Experience - Chapter Four...

Just about the only thing I love about this company (bar management) as a tech enthusiast is the willingness to move fast break things and keeping on iterating and willingness to take risks. Can’t wait to see the progress 2024 holds.

I’m sorry that’s too many information, how will they know which one is more accurate. They should use only one. Lol

You are talking about Segal's law which talks about the problem of having too many or too little information. The man who has a single watch does not in fact know if his time is accurate and the man with two watches does not know which one is more accurate. When you are talking about safety...

The statement is not absurd. How good something is, has no bearing on what level of automation it is assigned. It all boils down to design intent. Tesla released a summon software that can't navigate a parking lot at 5mph without hitting a curb. Tesla released autopilot which has been...