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  1. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Oh, you probably meant to post that original post in "The Wheel" thread. It was a perspective based on short-term stuff, wasn't it? I read "actionable" originally from a "long term" investor view. I thought you meant actionable from an SEC enforcement context. Hence the Glass-Steagall Act...
  2. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Some people tend to interpret information in a way that seems out of context from how it was presented. Almost as if that were the intention, in order to disrupt the thread. But, it could be they prioritize reading between the lines over reading the lines themselves. It is always easier to...
  3. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That statement, and the chart that preceded it, doesn't actually support any argument in regard to the effect shorting has had on the SP over time. Can't really say one way or the other without being able to compare to what that chart would look like if Tesla had been shorted less of what they...
  4. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Here's the post I quoted. It was last night's update. There hadn't been this quantity of consecutive days of 60% short selling reflected in that chart back on May 1. The link to the thread itself will take a clickee to the beginning of the most recent page, with the first post on April 30...
  5. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Further supported in @Papafox thread https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/papafoxs-daily-tsla-trading-charts.68293/page-212 Where is offered over two weeks of ~60% of TSLA selling tagged to shorts each day: "So, what happens on Wednesday? TSLA could possibly extend its gains, but an...
  6. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Dillon Loomis daily video contains a bit of a deep dive into the SOC group and who are behind them. (Pension Funds and Unions among others) A nice recap of current and future Semi information as well. Always a good source of the latest Tesla and EV updates, enjoy.
  7. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And Zaddy Daddy will be standing by to misunderstand them.
  8. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It is a good thing that the food for this critter is so cheap. ;) Otherwise, keeping such a pet fed could bankwupt someone.
  9. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Exactly, as intended. 😏
  10. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    At least that user group does rack up the daily miles more quickly than passenger cars do. Still, it might take a while for the corner cases, like backing the trailer, accounting for a variety of trailer wheelbases for turning at intersections, navigating a truck stop parking lot, weigh...
  11. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No, that is not what he is saying. Tesla will still build all the products based upon the AI. xAI, for instance, as a private entity can shepherd the AI development to assure it won't be adversely affected by scary, greedy people purchasing enough shares in a public company to exercise control...
  12. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We know. And we are watching you. 🤨
  13. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What if the purchase wasn't only about free speech? What if Elon has had a decades-old plan, originally introduced back when he was running PayPal, to create an "Everything App" that includes social media, finance, shopping, etc. all in one place? This project not being pursued there was the...
  14. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is so inspiring, https://www.teslarati.com/neuralinks-first-patient-looks-to-support-himself-family/ This is exactly what makes Elon's achievements and goals so worthwhile of our continued support.
  15. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I was hoping someone would catch that. :)
  16. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Now now, some of them might have as many as nine shares... :rolleyes:
  17. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Is it just me, or, is the very fact that these many and several investment channels are having to provide a way for TSLA shareholders to vote illustrating something worth consideration. That something being, in the past there has not been a swell of interest from retail shareholders to vote for...
  18. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla FSD and Robotaxi will eventually lead to the road environment becoming safer for cyclists. Though it may be a decade or more after FSD becomes mainstream before the threat of inattentive human-driven automobiles is significantly reduced from the equation. At least a half dozen friends...
  19. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon has always stated how government help is not necessary for companies to make the transition. I don't think this attitude has changed. He never expected, nor has he depended upon these programs as a part of his plan. In fact, I'd suspect he has more than likely anticipated interference from...
  20. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What gave you the impression he ever did? (not that he doesn't want us to get rich for investing, it just isn't what motivates him) He's grateful for us helping. But he isn't doing what he does only for the shareholders. He's doing it for all of mankind. He's been quite transparent about the...
  21. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tom Nash remarks on interviews with money managers which illustrate how, on several fronts, the second half of this year could be very positive. He shares an interesting point of view from these pros that offers a welcome balance to weigh in against the doomers and the gloomers.
  22. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How many times has it been said that Tesla is a sales disaster? I think Harley is a lot like Ford in the way they have approached this. They have a large base of dedicated users that aren't quite ready to grasp the electric future. Still, they have placed a product out there and established the...
  23. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The very fact that some shareholders are actively trying to keep Elon from receiving what is owed to him is example enough of how voting shareholders should not be trusted with deciding the future of AI. However, if the board were to decide to change some aspects of the current arrangement...
  24. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Nobody is stopping you from convincing him otherwise. But here might not be the best place to try and do that.
  25. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The print turned out pretty big in the copied X post. I found it easy to read. There doesn't seem to be any information between the lines that I can see. 🤷‍♂️ Feel free to... FWIW, there are plenty of clever ways to keep AI safe without Tesla losing their advantage in applying the fruits of...
  26. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon will not build a motorcycle. This was stated by him years ago and is old news. Plenty of others have/will though.
  27. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Think of that as the electric plane version of the first Tesla Roadster. It is only a matter of when, not if.
  28. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Two words,... Petro Dollar
  29. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Fortunately, short-haul regional flights will be the first to go electric. Here's one company in the flight testing phase of development with 250 NM range. If they can adopt Tesla's attitude toward manufacturing efficiency this project might really ... take off. :cool: Intercontinental flights...
  30. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You are 100% sure he won't leave, and, you are 100% sure TSLA will crash should he leave. Got it. I agree. That's not what I'm talking about now. How does repeating this over and over in an investor's forum without initially emphasizing a "market sentiment" context help you and your family...
  31. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It is inevitable, isn't it? He will have to sell huge amounts of shares to pay taxes on his stock options. It is only a matter of time.
  32. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You cannot say "it is as sure as it gets" after saying "How likely is what? Elon leaving out of spite? 0%." and both be sincere. It is either one or the other. 0% is about as unsure as it gets. 100% is as sure as it gets. (though, honestly, in an infinite universe, it IS possible. That is why I...
  33. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I remember at the time how some suggested he could have managed to arrange those sales directly with funds and such behind the scenes, without doing it in the open market. If so, maybe that will be considered next time this comes up.
  34. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The huge cooling platform being built next to the new GigaTexas' South extension is very likely for that purpose. If Tesla leverages Dell's manufacturing ability for assembling the computer hardware based on Tesla's Nvidia purchases into rack-mount modules, that would speed up the process...
  35. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I gave it my best shot to explain how we don't have to paint a dark picture to get the point across. You have a preference for doing it that way sometimes, for whatever reason. When anyone does this, egregiously, I'm quite likely to offer balance by presenting a perspective focused on the more...
  36. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    GME is going down and is +2x the volume of TSLA today. Maybe they wanted to continue the good work by selling for a profit and putting it someplace else where shorts can be juiced. ;)
  37. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You have offered an opinion on something that very likely has no chance of happening. I don't think you are a troll. But, continuing to champion the logic of such an outcome, repeatedly, serves those who purposefully sow discord in the form of generating fear, uncertainty, and doubt among the...
  38. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If the first is 0%, what is the purpose of spending time discussing the second?
  39. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely do you think this possibility is? I put it at 0.025 and that is being generous. Elon's tendency is to take on impossible tasks and succeed. Has this changed? The only ones thinking this is a real possibility are those who think of what they would do in that...
  40. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You seem to have left out the alternative where Elon continues to work toward reaching the goals that he's dedicated his life to. Not that this is relevant to your aptitude for maintaining a bias toward a negative outlook. For those preferring more balance in the things that shape their...
  41. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Think of it this way. FSD in cars is intended to replace human drivers. FSD in humanoid robots is intended to replace humans in a much larger scope of tasks than simply driving. That is what makes Optimus interesting. Where used, it will increase manufacturing quality, productivity, and reduce...
  42. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't see anyone bullying him, other than a Delaware judge. This vote is but one of several ways to resolve this issue. If it succeeds that would be great, if not, move on to the next option. Another way to resolve it would be a successful appeal in Delaware. This could reinstate the...
  43. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon is NOT motivated by money. There is zero chance that he will abandon Tesla. There is every chance that he will iterate, test, fail, repeat until he reaches his goal.
  44. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't know if that counts for extra points if the delusion is sarcastic. Too subtle to judge with any accuracy.
  45. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That is the thing about being delusional. There is more than one way to do it. Thanks for offering your delusion to the collection. Though, it wasn't particularly hilarious. So, based upon your own criteria, the other one wins on points. 🤷‍♂️
  46. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Meta? Facebook? Elon held shares in Facebook? That seems so wrong on so many levels. I must be misunderstanding something here. Edit: Sorry, my irony/sarcasm filter was disengaged. I get what you are saying and I approve this message. 🤙
  47. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And, we all knew this a year or two ago, based on the combination of Tesla's demonstrated manufacturing prowess and Cybertruck having reservations enough to carry production half a decade into the future without having to take a single order after deliveries began. :cool:
  48. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Or, the shorts are backed by some deep pockets that can afford the loss, simply because holding TSLA back serves another purpose for them. Such as, someone wanting to sway a vote, or someone who has a deeply held desire to delay their own irrelevance in whatever industry might have billions a...
  49. 2daMoon

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    5. Tesla wins the appeal in Delaware and Elon gets his paycheck anyway.