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You can if you compare a refreshed and much better M3 versus a 3 year old MY. Also possible better production efficiency with MY over M3 And then the $7500 tax discount impacts net price which only applies to MY and expensive M3 Performance.

Weeeell, they were not fired directly, not due to personal performance, but yes there will be clear distrust in management, especially Elon, and loss of moral.

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We have seen recent price drops, APR = 0.99%, and Long Range unlock on RWD MY We also have seen that Tesla had its first 1Q sales drop in the history of Tesla making cars. Additionally Tesla's are filling up services centers and even nearby shopping malls (I have seen them). Conversely there...

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-supercharger-installer-in-limbo-no-communcation-elon-musk-layoffs-2024-5 if not posted already

IMHO, Tesla is still hemorrhaging.

Agree it looks more like traditional truck than CT, but it is much more distinct than others. A couple years ago one of the news groups (cant find it :( ) quizzed people to ID truck with maker, and most participants were unable to match them. Rivian is visually unique, even the rear with that...

Voting open now?

Agree with all your other points, however I think the CT looks are exactly what is needed. Why? About 20 years ago Dodge introduced a truck design that did a away with the boxy front end, looked a little more like a semi-truck. It turned out to be extremely polarizing, some despised it, but...

On Mars, "your fired" is not an option!

With the 1Q 2024 push to reduce workforce numbers and especially the surprise firing and disintegration of Tesla's "crown jewel" Super Charger team, the workforce know they can be fired at any moment for any reason, including by actions of someone else they might not even know. With that axe...

Ah, yeah, sounds like yours a "hard" issue.

@Jones1 I live in SW Houston, do you?

Get a simple switch and connect your devices to that, and 1 line to your main switch. It should figure itself out and talk with server. https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Networking-Switches/b?ie=UTF8&node=281414 You could put that on battery backup (if no powerwall)

So you are charging batteries at night, and using solar at daytime? I have only solar and have amassed $200 in credits.

Wi-Fi sucks for 24/7 real-time data. Wire it to your switch

Elon mid-life crises.

Nah, I bet BP and all those other companies are willing to pay more to get all those secrets from Tesla! This is a certified GIFT to Tesla competitors.

IMHO its not so much guardrails, its listening and humility (and not let Ego take over). There is that video where Munro was super critcal about M3, called it a terrible design. Elon paid him a visit and listened, result was the amazing cars we have today. Everything I have read is Elon...

Critical of the Trump administration I will note. This was almost 7 months before election and Trump was calling shots on the COVID response. You know, use industrial cleaner injections (Trump said that April 24, 5 days earlier)?

I am in the VERY disappointed camp. He is clearly becoming erratic, stubborn, inflexible, and emotional. I think he is loosing view of his long term goals over short term spats. Recommend he take a few months off from companies and let his excellent team take over.

Do they rather want Chinese cars instead? (I know the M3 is made in China, hopefully less sweathouse conditions that most Chinese factories)

IMHO Elon was giving conflicting goals: Expand the network, but rapidly cut the workforce. Rebecca Tinnucci likely was saying this was too aggressive cutback for goals, needed time to finish up existing plans, and Elon simply would not listen to, consider alternate drawdown plans.

Sounds more like Elon knows he F-ed up big time, hammer on thumb, shot his foot, tunnel carpel syndrome, cracked his phone screen from excessive tweeting, bounced his check. Look on bright side, Elon is now an Oxford Dictionary entry, under "Dumbsizing".

Yeup! Last night as I was laying in bed I was actually thinking: If I had a lot of money I would be grabbing all those people and start my own charger installer business! And then stick it to Elon by installing CCS1 everywhere a SC was going to go! (wanted to post this earlier, but I have to...

Posted in WaPo. Donald Trump has pledged to scrap President Biden’s policies on electric vehicles and wind energy, as well as other initiatives opposed by the fossil fuel industry. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/09/trump-oil-industry-campaign-money/ Trump will do anything to...

She said can't be done, Elon cuts off a successful appendage of Tesla to prove he can. Talk about cutting off nose to spite face!! HOWEVER: I will say she should have asked for more time to prepare of reduction of staff, and offer up 16% reduction.

There is 2 details: 1. If the head of division is not executing an order, fire her and get someone else in to downsize. IIRC, Elon wanted a 20% reduction, why suddenly eliminate 100% and an entire organization to grow what many argue is the most valuable part of the entire company (with...

This is head scratcher. Charging $277 for gasoline fill-up a Model 3 (and $277 is at least 55 gallons worth of gas!!) Hertz Charges Tesla Model 3 Renter $277 Fee for Gas, Won’t Back Down On top of the, the renter also paid ahead for fill-up, so should not have even received that charge! (PS, a...

Big doubt. Tesla stopping its network will not magically make CCS1 great.

But who will make the arrangement? Seems like Tesla needs to start from scratch to even sell SC for others to install. Of all the "Dumbsizing" examples in dictionary, this may be the best example of all.

InsideEV posted article mulling over how the firing of the SC group will impact funding, guaranteed money on the table, the faster you build the more you make. https://insideevs.com/news/718664/tesla-supercharger-nevi-charger-funding/

Maybe the singed part not included on that article?

That's the Wang. (ahhhh, late to the party!)

This might have been posted here before (30 pages to look at!), but in case it is not: https://electrek.co/2024/05/03/read-the-wild-email-tesla-is-sending-to-suppliers-amid-supercharger-chaos/ Without a doubt this decision is a massive and deep self inflicted wound, the only way to fix is to...

Perfect reason why a the SuperCharger team is truly important.

Ah, yes, thanks for reminder. Ironically this happened during the tRump era. Also the first Biden year and Biden's refusal to even acknowledge Tesla publicly (shame on Biden admin!).

What makes him so innovative, insightful, and ground breaking also makes him so emotional and... uncontrolled. I do not follow Elon closely but it seems he is starting to loose control of himself with these random, extreme decisions. He needs a new hobby/distraction that does not impact those...

aka: DUMBSIZING, its an actual word.

DUMB SIZING In the early 1990's companies went into a crazy spiral of laying off like crazy, a race to the bottom. The purpose to reduce costs went too deep and reduced talent, resulting in loss of productivity and actually increased costs as a result! I am sure the SC unit could be reduced...

SO, question: If I order a M3P, I need to show my 2023 1040 to Tesla to get the $7500 credit? Also: I installed Solar in 2023 too (Home efficiency improvements), had a full refund for 2023 and have some more of that refund that will carry over into 2024, will that affect the $7500?

Pretty sure a new modest sized factory in 1 year is possible, it is material sources that could be bigger challenge. (Cue Corpus Christy?)

Ethernet port option would solve all this.

At least you had option of fast exit!

I was asking for suggestions, like asking someone at Tesla to make more products eligible for RC. Not a post about something obvious.

I have a number of friends who are curious to serious about Tesla products. At the moment I do not have one due to financial limits (looking at 3Q2024 possible) I am wondering if there is ways to get the Referral Code, even temporarily, and pass it around that day. Maybe a Demo Drive will give...

Ever rode in a DC-3? OTOH, what about the slab sided B-24? Happen to know what altitude the Sherpa flight was at?

It will be the one that offers the lowest operating cost, shape is meaningless. Probably will see the Short Sherpa return in electric version for short haul flights. This design is perfect for a conversion.

Sorry to prove you wrong. CBY-3 There was also an experimental cargo glider version, the XCG-16

Ever consider why passenger aircraft are a tube is because it is the best design for a pressure vessel? There are plenty of non circular fuselage designs that worked just fine. @Earl showed great examples. Another great example it is for pressure the fuselage is round. Boeing 377...