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Sept 2015 P90D with V3 battery installed on 12/14/2016 Battery has 36k miles on it. 12/5/2019 100% charge 258 rated miles.

I went through an entire year of service visits and emails with Tesla service. I was VERY upset that I paid $3k for the 90kw upgrade which for my car was an increase from 250 rated miles to 268 rated miles, and after a year it was gone. I finally gave up dealing directly with Tesla and went to...

No charge. It was listed as a one time goodwill gesture.

Some data points to share. Tesla replaced my V1 1063792-00-A battery on 12/14/2016 , Max charge was 246 rated miles ( was 268 at time of purchase 9/2015 ) with a V3 battery 1088792-00-A Max charge 270 rated miles ( car had 24k miles at the time ) On 10/03/2018 Max charge 260 rated miles ( loss...

When the battery fails and you get a replacement...can you dictate that the replacement be a V3 battery? Or can they give you a remanufactured V1 say?

I used the rated miles. At time of purchase my 2015 P90D was at the expected 268 rated miles at 100% SOC. After less than 2 months it was at 254. At the end of the first year it was at 245.

Sorry. Have been offline of this forum for quite a while. The contact I found most helpful was when I went higher up the ladder and started dealing with regional level customer support. Instead of the people at the tesla service area. With the most prevalent contact being with CDSP being I am...

Hi I have a 2015 model S P90D. I understand this is the model X thread but this topic relates to both models. I fought Tesla for a year due to unusual battery degradation on my V1 pack. Eventually they agreed to replace it and lucky for me it took them a year because by then the V3 battery...

I too was trying to get rid of a plasticy sounding rattle that would occur when I drove over roads that were not smooth. Roads that had a texture such that I could feel the steering wheel vibrate at a resonant frequency. The sound seemed like it was coming from the AC vent area to my left...

This is one of the strangest warnings I have ever seen. It's Tesla saying don't do it - and then taunting you to do it. Wonder how well that would hold up in court?

I would hope that going forward we can all leverage off the efforts of @azdryheat , in protecting the product we purchased, post purchase. And that over the air updates won't be used anymore to degrade the cars value in any way. Now that the can has been kicked down the road - it will be even...

Based on the implication that Tesla coupled launch mode to max power to prevent owners from using max power too often? Due to battery damage risk when driving aggressively hence the counter gate issue? How does removing this requirement correct the issue with aggressive driving damaging the battery?

Yeah the MBR issue is something I can see learning to live with. As long as I knew that using it wasn't causing battery damage. If so, I would just turn it on in the morning before getting ready for work. Since my commute time is around 20 minutes, I would have to enable max battery about a half...

Since I have lived through being an early owner of the P90DL - and experienced a lot of morphing of that product since I bought it in Sept 2015? I do feel that the only true P90DL product would be one with a V3 battery that would perform as spec'd simply by selecting ludicrous mode. Since that...

If it is true that only V3 owners can upgrade to 100 kw? How much more can a V1 owner go through with this car? I guess V2 owners should be frustrated also relating to this info. Tesla should just punt on the whole P90DL mistake. It was never ready for prime time. Put together an upgrade...

Being an early V1 owner, and experiencing the frustration of dealing with Tesla over issues with range and performance. I feel your pain. I was so stressed out with the whole ordeal. To think you can drop so much coin on just the ludicrous option, and Tesla not even give you what you paid for...

Good question.... When I was running the V3 in the past - I would put MB ON and get about 488 kw instantly and it felt AMAZING. It would almost feel like I could get the front end up in the air. Now without ludicrous mode it is not as neck snapping, but I still have not lost a race off the line...

Great news! Thanks go out to @azdryheat !!!! Proof that Tesla does not control our cars post purchase in a way that will degrade their value. It will be good to get all the testing done to compare what the new performance looks like. I wonder if MB ON will give you the instant 20 kw boost like...

With the way Tesla is managing over the air (OTA) updates - where they are not upfront about what the update is going to do.. needs re thinking/ re designing. For the customer - we get a heads up that this release will implement bug fixes, or have improvements to say auto pilot. But it is really...

For me with the P90DL - with V3 battery prior to the power reduction 100 SOC With MB switched from OFF to ON 466 kw to 486 kw NOTE: It was an immediate 20 kw increase - No waiting for MBR With MBR 486 kw to 510 kw With LM 510 kw After the power reduction 100 SOC With MB switched from OFF...

Good point. If I was still a V1 owner.... I would not hesitate to get compensated for the ludicrous fiasco. Trust me - the car in insane mode is a lot of car. The only true ludicrous owners have a V3 battery. And they have the battery fault issue when driving the car aggressively too often...

Wow... that is very poor customer service. Looks from your info that you are in CA? If so, after all this time and no response from Tesla, I would contact CDSP. Unfortunately CDSP has been the only way for me to get Tesla to act on warranty issues.

Geesh @jeffro01 - I thought you turned the page on your personal attacks on people? You are now back on my "ignore worthy" list to stay.

Just curious... what did you pay for? Shouldn't a faulty battery be a free warranty issue? And yes you should not be accepting anything short of the 1088792 battery. Though it does come with the risk of breakage if you push it to hard. I am hoping that the efforts of @azdryheat may result in a...

Wow!! Very cool!!! It's awesome you took this unselfish effort to help protect all Tesla owners from Tesla using over the air updates to prevent warranty issues, at the expense of downgrading performance that you purchased. Very Very cool! Thanks so much! We can use this precedence going...

Both @TIppy and @St Charles - you two give good data and support your opinions fairly. The reason @TIppy feels Tesla has done wrong, and the reason that @St Charles feels Tesla has not, are both totally personal. I think this is a classic case of a time to "agree to disagree" . Though I love...

Good point... as ludicrous mode has evolved, it is a different argument for each buyer depending on their time of purchase expectations which were guided by the user manual at that time. If MB was in the user manual at time of purchase, then you knew that MB was required to achieve maximum power...

Tesla has done some things to warrant your opinion regarding future purchases. I agree. I am thinking of going forward with the Model 3 purchase for my wife... though it will be a bare bones purchase because of how things went with the P90DL. I hope Tesla will learn from their customers, and...

Speaking of battery degradation - the warranty stated that "gradual loss over time" is not covered ( not sure if that warranty wording has changed since I last checked over a year ago). If you can show your battery degradation was not gradual - you can get Tesla to listen. And even rectify the...

Yes - they found that the package couldn't handle the weight of all the things they put into it. Fixing the package was too costly. Reducing weight was way more cost effective.

In two different cases with Tesla , where I had data to prove that options I purchased were not delivered... Tesla would not do anything about either case. Once I involved a legal component, both cases were resolved very quickly and respectfully by Tesla. I have no problem with Tesla taking this...

"As the manufacturer, Tesla is allowed to improve the aspects of the vehicle..." Really? Sell a performance option for $10K.. then reduce the performance to improve the aspects of the vehicle? Did Kellyanne just join the Tesla legal team???? Keep up the fight @azdryheat

Ooops. My bad. Didn't catch that fact. Thanks.

P90D should be 268 rated miles at 100%. The P85D was around 250 at 100%, the P90D should be 6% more range than the P85D. My 2015 P90D has the V3 battery and last time I charged to 100% it hit 273 rated miles.

I did the same thing - I started with 19's then switched to 20's. I ran the 19's for about 20k miles, and have about 15k on the 20's. I went with Avant Gard M610's rims with a square setup of michelin pilot 245/40's . What I noticed right away after the switch to the 20's was a tighter feel to...

Here is the parts list related to the Tesla service of changing my V1 battery on my 2015 October P90DL to a V3 battery. The number preceding the part number is the QTY. Parts Replaced or Added Part Quantity SCR,M4-0.7x12,PH,TRX,SST,PATCH 6 (1042040-00-A) TOP RING,HV RAPIDMATE,HVBAT 1...

I see where you are coming from - but do not agree that Tesla needed to over promise to generate the end results of selling a lot of cars and driving the stock price up. The product is awesome. I believe that is why Tesla is doing so well. Whether my car can do 10.9 seconds in a quarter mile? Or...

This is a great topic. And one I believe will benefit Tesla to read through and learn from the many different opinions. I am an owner that loves the Tesla product, though was not happy with the difference between the product sold to me and the product delivered. If Tesla would make one change...

I hope things work out for you... can you share any status on your request for investigation?

I did a test this morning.. with the car in the most common mode I typically drive it in. P90D Insane - No MB or launch mode. At 80 SOC 419 kw 0-60 3.0 seconds. I was really surprised to see the 3.0 on the display - the only thing I noticed was the car did hook up really well to the road that...

The way Tesla dealt with me on my ludicrous mode complaint - was completely independent of the prior battery issue. Since we never went to arbitration - the complaint I filed to CDSP was sufficient in Tesla's thinking to want to settle.

For most of us - I would guess the typical day would consist of using the car with the battery at 90 percent. Then driving without waiting for MBR , or using launch mode? That is how I drive my car - except when testing power levels. So for me that is my typical use case. Which is the most...

The V3 battery I have is part # 1088792 .

Previous with ludicrous mode 100 SOC ludicrous with MBR 488 kw 0-60 3.0 seconds 100 SOC ludicrous 466 kw Now with insane 100 SOC insane with MBR 431 kw 0-60 3.2 seconds 100 SOC insane - still need to do this one 78 SOC insane 408 kw The off the line jolt in insane feels very similar to...

Good one ! It is really good to have this forum for Tesla owners. To inform owners about the inner workings of their cars and all the details. I don't have any issues with Tesla anymore - but will be sure to stay informed by continuing to stay updated on TMC.

It took about a half hour. It was implied that the battery was not touched. Though I did not confirm.

I am at Tesla now. They are removing the ludicrous option. I am not able to discuss anything further related to the castration. I am happy that I can drive the car as I would like without risking damaging the battery. I am not happy that I will no longer have that crazy ludicrous power...

I found a good article on it online - FYI How Car Dealers Are Run

Regarding the dealership model... I am ignorant to how the whole model works. Like forinstance - I will see a ton of cars on a dealership lot... and wonder if they need to sell all of them? Or do they ship back to the OEM the left overs, to make room for the new ones, and get reimbursed? Do they...

Regarding your comment above that all that Tesla changed is max current is not true in my case. It is the most recent change of the many Tesla has made to the implementation of ludicrous mode since when I purchased the car in Oct 2015. The current implementation of ludicrous mode that my car...