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You are spot on, length is an issue, asymmetry is not helping. As for measuring (someone else's comment), I am not sure how you would prove that the geometry is chosen wrong unless you had access to the software used to test the car, I mean design software that is used for design testing, not...

No need to measure, this is what CV joints operate at. I am not sure why, but the axels on the cars are asymmetrical in length (a guess I would say its how the motor is positioned and the differential it uses being on the left side) also, there is some type of bracket on the right side of the...

This is a 100% suspension geometry issue, and until that changes it will continue to be a problem. The angle of the axels is asymmetrical at all drive heights and has a maximum operating angle that never exceeds 54 degrees on outboard joints, usually 47 to 54 is what is put in most cars on the...

NVM I see Sept 2020..

Very nice, was it easier to get a LR over a plaid?

Thank you for this, I will do exactly that!

I got the Plaid 6 call, switch from 5 seat to 6, no charge to you, yet the account shows the increase, but according to the SA a credit will be issue, is that a similar experience to others? He also said I would have the car in weeks, not months.

For those of you still waiting: My plaid is a 444, long range 439. I inspected my plaid today and I can tell you the fit and finish is better than the long range. There are no paint defects, and the panels are all nicely aligned. I would say there is an improvement in 5000 built cars, but I...

I would reject this car only because of the chip in the door, that whole door has to be repainted to fix that. All the other items can be easily fixed and quickly fixed. I think those items on the camera and door are transport damage. The fender liner just has to be secured properly, the...

Sure, that is a long range, the drive unit was replaced, that solved that, however, the service center scratched the **** out of the door, so its being painted right now.

Thank you, it looks great, neat, clean, professional :)

Thank you!!!

Rolled off the assembly line on the 16th, cream with carbon fiber. Paint is good, alignment is good, no dings, dents or scratches. Some rubber seals a little wiggly, but the heat from CA will handle that. The passenger seat, the stitching a little wiggly to, but not enough for me to ask for a...

I went through these thoughts, but it was, Porsche Taycan Turbo, to plaid, so the 30K savings was there for me, granted the Porsche is better built, with much better service, but its not a super computer on wheels, and the Tesla is not a performance car like a Porsche, the Tesla is just much...

My plaid is supposed to get in tomorrow, I am not holding my breath on build quality though... 5YJSA1E68MF444XXX

Not matrix, just LED lights that illuminate/de-illuminate on turning the wheel. There are like 10-12 bulbs, I forget; matrix bulbs use 50-100 bulbs...and it is amazing.

It really is a computer on wheels more than anything else. Super computer that is!

For those that recall, I had a LR that failed in 6 miles and had to be towed back to the SC. Anyway, the drive unit had to be replaced, and now I have the car back, its a 439 VIN, and its in great sorts for build quality. Much better than the 431s, and 430s I have seen... Knock on wood, this...

You should see some of the CRAP that I have rejected (5 with paint chips, down to the aluminum, 2 with paint runs, trim damage, wheel damage, wood interior damage, a shitty attempt to wet sand the A pillar and they didn't even clean up the wax that ran down into the door from buffing), glad they...

Totally, and I already have a DEAD Long Range at my SC, it has 35 miles on it. I guess I am the FOOL for thinking they would treat me different, they didn't even care to come outside and look, the next question was, do you want the order canceled? I said yes. I have been driving Tesla's since...

Buena Park!

Went to pick up my Plaid. I have to say its a big no and I will be going back to Porsche for now, and it seems like late appearances of the inventory cars are rejects, so if you get the VIN: 5YJSA1E62MF431455, be warned its not pretty: Big paint chip on the rear fender by the window trim...

For those of you that want to know the continued story of my S that broke down within 6 miles of leaving the SC. The team at the SC is doing everything they can, but they are stumped, and so is Tesla engineering. One for the books I must say. Not sure how I feel about picking up my Plaid on Sat.

The Service Center, is still "working with engineering" to determine the root cause, AKA, they don't know what is wrong. They plan to keep the car till they figure it out. But so far it has an additional 10 miles on it now, so they are driving it. Overall its pretty disappointing, but what...

Those are rejects. They don’t send them any place. My local sc has 3-4 too.

It is mine yes, drive unit inverter failure, for the rear of course.

Also, the Long Range I have is good fit and finish and good paint, one minor blemish that was buffed out, overall solid its a 439

That is my Long Range car, I have two cars.

I can reply to this, I got a 430 plaid, waiting on it to be fixed, and if it isn't I will reject it: the three problems with it: transport damage to the front fender inside the back lower side, damage to the rear bumper where it meets the body on the corner by the wheel, and the rocker not...

Not yet, the service center wants to perform a validation test of the drive unit, and then road test to verify before returning, my guess is Tuesday.

Sure thing, August, first week...

Not sure, my guess is Friday or possibly early next week. I am getting the plaid Saturday, knock on wood it is in good shape and doesn't test my trust in Tesla. By the way, the car is in good shape, very good paint I think, and good fit and finish and panel alignment.

Update: the rear drive unit inverter failed, the service manager advised it is not common, and he was confident it would be fixed soon, he was waiting on the part.

Got an update today, drive unit inverter failure, the service manager advised it wasn't common, and he was confident it would be fixed for good.

Yeah that would be me! I have to check this out, wow, what timing!! This is my 4th Tesla as well, and I have a Plaid queued up too!

I have another car on order, they do know that as well. I am hoping I don't have to be a pain, but I agree its a shame!!

Thank you! I asked for that, they said they will "get back to me on that". It sounded really bad, like an internal explosion in the drive unit, banging, slamming, and not in a good way!!

I don't want to scare anyone, but I must share what happened today: I picked up my LR and within 6.3 miles of driving the car started shaking and shuddering really bad from the rear, followed by stalling out and a host of error messages: "vehicle shutting down, rear motor power reduced, pull...

I picked up my LR today and within 6.3 miles the car failed and had to be towed back to the service center. It all started with a loud banging and shaking from the rear motor, and then the warning messages that the vehicle was shutting down. Any others???

Boom, cream, 21's MSM, plaid...

I don't understand the methodology, it has to be region specific. I have a few car orders, for a spouse and myself. For kicks I put in an order and in 24 hours, yes 24, I have a VIN and delivery date. While my 2 month ago order still doesn't have a delivery date, but a VIN, and my long range...

What are the first 3 of the last 6 of your vin sequence?

I am wondering about that myself, the vin is so low in sequence its like it was one of the first cars built.

I have a funny update, well maybe odd, I got the email, hey your White 21' Cream Plaid S is delayed. Checked the account, it says: FEB, WTF. Okay, 3 hours later a get a vin, with 431. Not sure what is up, and maybe this car has been waiting in the 450 lot?

Cross: Ordered a LR in June with 21's. Date shows August 5-19. SoCal

Sorry wrong forum!! X shows September...

Ordered a LR in June with 21's. Date shows August 5-19. SoCal

I have been through this myself on my ludicrous P100D. The issue is the half shafts moving left/right as they develop play in them due to wear. Design flaw for sure with how the clevis mount is setup. I just have learned to live with it and know it will be there at full charges etc...

Place the order. You don’t have to accept an inventory car. It’s best to wait as long as possible. The only advantage of accepting is discounts. I’ve done this before with my P100D and regretted it. I placed an order myself and if it isn’t refreshed there is a $100 loss.