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You can't get a P without LR or D, so how about just "3P"? ;)

Original Invite was Feb 22. Yes, I indicated AWD when I deferred.

Yeah. I yelled "YOLO" and clicked the Performance button. :eek: Awesome. So there are now four of us, I guess. :)

Yes. Yes I did. :cool: I keep checking my Tesla account to make sure my order is still there. My order is still there. :eek: I thought I'd pop over here to see if anybody else was able to order. I knew @ryanjm was able to, and I see @NickHoffmann got an order in too. But seriously, I...

He answered in the YouTube comments that the 3 had 18" aeros. He also said that the Leaf is a 2011 with original wheels. That means it has 16" wheels (newer Leafs can be had with 17" wheels). Also, Nissan made the Leaf suspension a bit stiffer starting in 2013. The early Leafs have a very...

I think you meant to say "Lincoln". Cadillac has been out-BMW'ing BMW for the past decade. If you want a cushy cruiser, you want a Lincoln or a Buick.

o_O ....Tesla doesn't offer the sport wheels in a 20" size, let alone staggered. At least not yet.

Nice. What offsets did the wheels have?

Thanks! Do you happen to have a photo looking straight down one of the sides of the car? I'm curious if these wheels stick out from the fenders at all, or how far they are tucked in. Do you know the offsets for these wheels? I couldn't find that information on Avant Garde's website.

It looks like that wheel comes in 8.5" and 10" widths. I assume these are 8.5"? Did you use any spacers? What size tires did you fit to these wheels?

The father of an employee just received his Model 3 last night!

You probably should have went with the longer version. There's going to be those one or two times per year when - for whatever reason - you'll need to charge your car out in the driveway.

PM generally (compared to induction): is smaller is more efficient costs more

Not as unlikely as you might think. If you look at the Premium Upgrades Package for the Model S, it lists "Heated seats for every passenger". However, the Model S does come with heated front seats as standard, despite that vague wording for what the upgraded package includes.

Easy access. The lid is out of your way. We've known about this design for a while though.

Yes, but you said: A Model S is not a compact hatchback, and is a rather large vehicle.

That's exactly what it includes. That's why it's referred to as "full autonomy". The camera and radar can detect obstructions. Rerouting is handled by software. Neither can my eyeballs, but through fleet learning the cars will know that a blind driveway exists there and take whatever...

I don't know where you're looking for your definitions, but that's simply untrue. SAE Automated Driving Definitions

Then a Chevy Bolt is the PERFECT car for you. Seriously. You've exactly described it. It's got a very compact footprint, but a lot of interior space for its size. Forget about the 3 and get yourself a Bolt. I'd rather have a damn sexy sports sedan, but that's just me.

The engineers at Tesla believe that they have all of the necessary hardware. You can question it, but I see no reason to. We've already seen a demonstration video of a Tesla driving itself.

Excellent! Can you teach it to @Nuclear Fusion ? :D

Sorry, when you replied that the coast-to-coast trip was meaningless, I guess I misunderstood. Today's Tesla cars already have all of the hardware required to support L5 autonomy. There's a lot of work to be done on the software side to get there, but as soon as that happens, all existing...

Meaningless? Even if they don't handle those exceptional conditions, it would still be the first production car with level-3 autonomy. I would be very happy with a car that could handle most of the mundane driving, and alert me to take over when it encounters a situation that it can't handle...

Elon believes that they'll be able to demonstrate Level-5 autonomy by having a Telsa vehicle drive itself coast-to-coast by the end of this year. Every Tesla car sold has all of the hardware necessary - hardware that is *not* used for current autopilot. The tech is closer than you think.

I'm sure they will not. :-) Tesla is planning to run its own autonomous taxi service, called "Tesla Network". Owners of Telsas can choose to partake. Their cars would be available for ride sharing when not needed by the owner. Tesla views this as a way to help people afford their cars in...

You're supposed to divorce one spouse before you marry the next one.

I think you're just seeing the side bolster of the driver's seat through the steering wheel. EDIT: I take that back. I think the steering wheel is turned, and that's the bottom spoke.

Correct. This was a "heads-up" from a Tesla employee who wishes to remain anonymous. The other part of that "leak" is that these would remain the only options for ~3 months. If that's true, I think that's going to cover more than just employees.

I'm leaning in this direction too. I'm going to be disappointed if we find out that the aero covers are actually offered on steel rims.

Elon disagrees: Elon Musk on Twitter

What you're describing is simply route-planning. That's a mostly solved problem today. Any navigation app on a phone can perform that task. That's not what autonomous driving is. Should they be allowed to? Sure, that's just the route planning aspect. The car still needs to determine where...

I don't even know what you're trying to say with that statement. If a human isn't turning the wheel or touching the pedals, it's actual autonomy. Whether or not GPS is being used is immaterial.

I just opened that link in an incognito window, and I'm able to see the pictures over there just fine, without being logged in. In what way is it a "walled garden"?

If there aren't any pics, then I assume it was a truck load of Model Xs.

Can you provide links to the videos that you believe exhibit this behavior? I don't recall seeing any where I thought this. I do remember one video of a 3 where a Model X in the background appeared to have a suspension setup that was too stiff.

Yeah, and what are they doing to make my cassette tapes sound better?

You got it! The reveal alphas had 20" wheels. All of the current RC's have either 19" or 18" wheels with more sidewall.

TheModel 3 frunk appears to be so small, that including something that fits in it would be very useful.

On the S, Tesla allows you to upgrade to the 21" turbines even when ordering the otherwise base rear-drive 75. We've seen RCs with wheels that match the silver alpha's wheels design, but they appear to be a bit smaller in diameter. Tesla doesn't offer a staggered setup on the S. Frankly, I...

McHoffa's gif doesn't line up the rear wheel hubs nor the rear wheel wells. It suggests that the wheelbase was shortened, and I think that's much less likely than the trunk being slightly extended.

I have to agree. The RC wheels seem to be a little smaller than what was on the alphas. Also, it looks like we're not going to be offered a staggered wheel setup like the alphas had.

THIS! If all of those lines intersected at the same point, it would result in HORRIBLE panel gap at those spots. So please, STAHP about the lines not intersecting. It's done this way on purpose.

The windshield is a different piece of glass from the roof. If the windshield gets a crack, you replace it the same way.

In that case, can you please just ask it (again and again) in the one thread dedicated to this question, instead of spreading it around to various threads like this one? If you can provide a link (or book title) about that Audi executive that you mentioned, then some of us can read it to...

You have a WHOLE THREAD dedicated to this question. You received several _answers_ within that thread. Do you not believe that the answers are correct or true? I don't want to ignore you. I just find it frustrating that we can't seem to answer this question to your satisfaction, and at this...

No, you really, really don't. And you've asked this question about a dozen times. Why do you ignore the answers you receive? Are they not going into enough detail for you to believe them? Is it just a rhetorical question? I don't believe you're a troll, but your insistence that Tesla should...

Of course. But GM reportedly hasn't been able to bring their costs down enough on the Bolt to do that. Report: GM will lose ~$9,000 for every Chevy Bolt EV it sells before ZEV credit It's still beneficial for GM to have an EV to offer in some locales - even if they have to sell them at a loss -...

No. GM would much rather keep creating their profitable combustion vehicles. They're building EVs because they *have* to (government regulation). And so far, they appear to be only selling the Bolt into CARB states, where the ZEV credits will help offset the losses on the car itself. The...

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