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Yep, edited my original post on that, just some misspeaking on my part for a moment; but yeah, I meant to say that the glass roof, w/o the crossbar, post Raven, was changed so that the SXM antenna was relocated from said crossbar and that it could absolutely do SXM.

This stuff about the "glass" roof not having the XM antenna is **incorrect**. In late 2018, the sunroof was discontinued and the pano roof was the only option available from then on. Shortly after the Raven refresh, ALL model S and X included SXM capability. The "glass roof no / sunroof yes"...

Has anyone actually seen the "XM improvements"? I have a 2018 MS with MCU2+HW3, and I got 2020.24.6.11 last week and 2020.28.5 tonight, and everything on the web talks about there being "Sirius/XM interface improvements" but its still the same old dumb list for me. It'd be *really* weird if...

So, same here : Late 2018 MS, MCU2, HW3 with active SiriusXM. No SiriusXM improvements and no SiriusXM mentioned in release notes. Maybe not all MCU2s are equal? Surprised that someone with a Raven is in the same situation. @davezforce does your SXM interface look different? Mine certainly...

Ok thanks guys - thats at least two reports of it happening on 2019.32.2.2 - makes me feel a little better; just weird that it happens like crazy on certain roads predictably. I don't think my cameras are bad because as soon as i'm off those roads everything works fine... As far as is Tesla...

hmm. Well, thanks for letting me know - that's a good sign in a way, saying maybe it's software, but also I've looked around and not any other reports. I'd hate to make another service appointment. (I did, however, do the 'bug report' thing while it was happening...)

So the reason I bring this i up is: I've been getting "Blindspot Detection Limited" warnings since a week after I got my car in Dec. 2018. They usually came up completely randomly and lasted all day. They've replaced pretty much everything related: Every camera (some several times), the camera...

Thanks guys. The paint shop they're using seems pretty highly rated, and I called the shop and they say they do MSM all the time. So I guess my last worry on it will just be sensors being flush and gap alignment but that should be doable. May end up getting a front PPF after this, since it...

So, I took my Model S in for some pretty straightforward service and a tire rotation. They didn't do a walkaround when I dropped it off; when I came to pick it up it had three 6-inch scrapes/gouges in the front bumper, like as if someone dragged something across it. Not minor. They pretty...

Pretty sure this is oxidization, and oxides like this can take on different shades from reddish to brownish to yellowish. Depends on the conditions. ... Personally, this really has done so much damage to the Tesla experience to me. And no, not as some fanboys are gonna chime in and say...

Definitive, no. I paid for a new screen that's supposedly non-yellowing. It hasn't yet; but it hasn't been that long. (I had it replaced in May.) I'll be keeping track of it, that's for sure. It was a different part number entirely, than the yellowing one that was removed.

As far as I know, no lawyers are dealing with this for any customers. Seems like some people get lucky in arbitration, and some of us (like me) don't. This really makes me uncomfortable going forward because it seems like Tesla's warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on, they can...

So, I got my result today and my decision was DENIED. "Customer did not provide a preponderance of evidence that there is a manufacturing defect in materials or workmanship that substantially impairs use, safety, or value of the vehicle that is covered by the warranty." Note, the arbitrator...

Wildag, I haven't gotten the outcome of my arbitration case yet, but -- I will say that Ryan said he "didn't mention anything about sunlight" during my case. He almost seemed offended that I would insinuate such a thing. Their tactics (his tactics) change depending on the person and the case...

I honestly wasn't aware of the arbitration process at the time. I mean, I knew vaguely that it existed but I was under the impression that "the manufacturer always won" and it wasn't even worth trying. Then I saw some people here get things decided in their favor. Since I already paid I don't...

So my arbitration case is going to be a little bit different. I'm the one who took delivery in the middle of the Colorado winter (Dec 2018) and had yellowing happen < 90 days into ownership. At the time there was no talk of a 'UV fix', I was told twice it would be replaced and then suddenly told...

Question for you if I may... My S is about 7 months old and it's been in five times for "autopilot functions limited", "surround view limited" and "blindspot detection limited" -- basically: camera problems, and they haven't been able to fix it. Replaced all the cameras, ran new wiring...

Same deal here. Also awaiting arbitration. Same arguments, including the post from Bonnie's twitter - oddly enough, when I paid to have my screen replaced, this fix wasn't even a thing yet. And Tesla asserts that the screen "didn't come from the factory that way" (it was yellowing 90 days into...

So I'm going through NCDS arbitration now too. Pretty nervous about it. Haven't had my hearing yet. It's also going to be with Ryan McCarthy, who posted in his presentation to NCDS, some posts from this forum. So undoubtedly he's reading it. Paladin, what was your outcome? Were you successful...

I just did. P100D_Me, I'm gonna PM,er, 0D.. you...

The MCU screen that came out of mine was an Innolux G170J1-LE1. Yes, they appear to be $200-$400 depending on source. So Tesla is marking them up quite a bit. Here is a picture of the sticker from the back of my yellowing MCU screen that was removed. @Gixx1300R - My invoice is at home, I...

Was just the screen, yes. IC yellowing images attached, I'll get the invoice when I get back from work stuff. Also, I considered it being pressure, but my bezel isn't even touching my IC display. But proximity to the bezel definitely has SOMETHING to do with it as it traces the shape and...

I will post a picture yeah, just haven't been able to yet as I noticed this when I was leaving for a work trip but I will get it for sure. -- Another person on the forum here actually posted that his IC screen is yellowing too, I just haven't been able to find that comment or thread. But i'm...

I've said several times that if this happened with Model 3, we both wouldn't hear the end of it and it'd be fixed lightspeed. The model 3 display doesn't seem to use the 'gel' though, so I doubt it'll yellow. It does leave Tesla in an odd situation though if anything ever does happen to the...

Maybe. It's about time for me to look into it. I know I had 4 repairs for the autopilot cameras not working as well. But from what I hear, invoking lemon law is rather difficult. But it's time to look into it.

They're legally required to fix stuff under warranty, too. Yes, I did, since the mobile service guy was here while I was discussing it on the forum. His position was simply that it's "against policy". I suppose I could have called the police or wrestled him to the ground …. but sometimes...

I don't know. As far as I know there's likely no revision *or* planned 'magic fix' for this one. No I will not pay for a replacement of the same that will yellow again. You laugh, but I still firmly believe that we'll never see a warranty or "in-place" fix. What will happen is, those with...

I did. Rather adamantly. They refused. "Against policy." Not happy about that either. That all said there's no telling that "home remedies" of any sort will work. There's been little consistency from Tesla as to what would end up fixing it. Whether this is damage caused by photo/light...

Well, I'm not on a lease so I believe the word you'd be looking for is "sale", and I'm sure they could find other reasons to lowball. The biggest problem about this is that there's really no promise of what's going to be done, and nothing we can do about it at all as customers/owners. (Again...

No, but most of the folks in the forum here have determined the yellowing isn't from heat and sun. I'm inclined to agree, since my car started yellowing after only existing for 90 days in the Colorado winter. You have a 2016 - there's a good chance you have one of the earlier screens that...

I don't believe screen repair is going to happen. We can argue on that, but I've heard no less than 6 "methods" they're going to use. (Tape, UV, liquid, heat, firmware, top glass replacement.) Time frame has been pushed out and out. The supposed "revised" screens (apparently the ones going...

No promise, no. And now my instrument cluster screen is yellowing.

And most of us are really skeptical about it. And the timeframe is "someday". As of tonight my IC screen is also yellowing. Car is not yet 6 months old. Believe them if you like. I don't.

And now after paying to have my MCU screen replaced after it started yellowing after 90 days, now my instrument cluster screen is yellowing. Car isn't even 6 months old yet. Sure I'm going to get the same line or worse. Not sure what to do at this point.

Correct. Delivery in late December 2018, was yellowing by early March 2019, about 82 days after delivery. At that point we had had mostly snow, no days > 40'F, and largely overcast on most days. At that point, also, most commutes were in the dark due to the short days. All SCs were...

Have noticed the exact same thing @steilkurve did. The new 1084333-C display I had installed seems more recessed from the bezel. I actually have had the same thoguhts, "maybe they installed it off a little" - since they had to transfer the metal surrounds, a lot of screws that have to be just...

Wow. So as of today two reports of free screen replacements, and now reports of screen replacements down the line, again. Really not sure what I should do; I know Tesla DOES NOT refund ANYTHING, so the chances of me getting my money back from last week are pretty much zero.

Neat, so I guess whether you have to pay or not is just lotto on whether or not Tesla likes you. Two Teslas and one being a P100DL? That may make the difference. @Zooomer you don't have a youtube channel perhaps, do you?

When I paid for my replacement display, I asked three questions: Me: "If you buy a Model S right now, will the display yellow?" Tesla: "No, it won't." Me: "So the display I'm paying for, is it the same one going into the cars that are being sold right now?" Tesla: "Yes, it is." Me: "So the...

hmm @Naekuh honestly that sounds like they'll be replacing your screen someday. Maybe they don't want to piss off more people by charging them. But seriously, telling a P100D buyer (I mean that's a REAL Tesla!) to GLHF over this huh? At least they were willing to take my money. Maybe they...

Windshield and pano roof / top glass, yes. Side windows, not so much. They seem to pass a lot of UV, but I figure that may even depend on production date. (A loaner S that I had, had visibly colored windows compared to mine.) Measured recently and they passed more than I'd like; that's why I'm...

… to be fair, that is a 'thermo device', so... maybe you're on to something.

I hope the next proposed mobile service capable fix method somehow involves sonar or radar, since we've covered the rest of the electromagnetic spectrum from IR to UV. After they propose blasting the thing with a 4kW magnetron, perhaps they can try shutting all the doors and playing Neil...

I've heard so many "official" statements on what the fix is going to be from Tesla that I don't have any faith that they're doing anything but buying time and feeding us a line. The first thing I heard was "firmware", which as on its face ridiculous even though a bunch of people seemed to buy...

Cool! A new method to add to the pile! Now we have, as proposed by different service center techs : Electrical (TESLA!) Tape around the border UV blasting / UV lights with a lot of fans Liquid that'll be rubbed onto the screen. (Elon's Display Lotion) Firmware that causes a blue border (or...

It is available. AM is not. XM is. XM is available on every configuration of S/X. It is only AM that was eliminated.

It is - and I might fight to get it back, (though who knows where it is now); but to be honest I need a little bit of a break from this issue. It's been kind of a drag, honestly, in owning the car and how I feel about Tesla. I'm hoping I can just go a while without any more big defects or...

One service center did, yes; "Since you paid Tesla will likely be more willing to replace if the problem continues". Nervous about examining my IC now though too, because those seem to be yellowing now, as well? But yeah, it was also made clear that this screen was supposed to resolve the...

AM, they don't have - I wish they did. XM though, I do not believe that has been eliminated. I've been looking into some AM solutions; a third party Bluetooth SW radio (which covered AM) did exist for a while, and even showed the stations as 'tracks' over Bluetooth - but that no longer seems...

At this point I'm not sure what path I would take to do so. Dispute the credit card charge? What would Tesla do in retaliation? Small claims, some people say, but is this even a sure-shot sort of thing. Yeah, I'm interested in doing so, but at this point I'm not sure what the approach should...