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Wait. Dow is down 600 points and Tesla is 174.00+0.26 (+0.15%)

Tesla presently unch...................The market is perplexed. 😆 https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/23/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-says-he-favors-no-tariffs-on-chinese-evs.html

Whiskey Tango....................................................., where are you going? My point is in a regulated environment, and as a former APT, you know this, automation has led to air travel being the safest mode of transportation. The roadways are NOT regulated, so for FSD in vehicles...

Be sure to install the aeros to decrease your 1/4 times 😆

Missing the point. FSD operating in a random environment as driving from house to work is impressive. So one an see how it "should" be safer. Flying is not random and very regulated.

I am not crazy about FSD tech, but I can understand it being safer. An example, unbeknown to most when you take off in an airliner, SOP is around 500-1000ft engage the autopilot and make course and speed corrections through it. Autopilot gets disengaged late into the final around 1500 feet...

For what future product? RT?

Profit taking.

Guarantee a couple of hundred thousand units from a Tier 1 supplier, they may drop the unit price low enough to make it possible.

Is rear steering needed on the Y? Is it worth the extra cost? It may have it, but the rear steering is not as pronounced. Agreed on the steer by wire, which means a 48V architecture.

Tesla being copied................greatest form of flattery. https://www.carscoops.com/2024/05/kenworth-supertruck-2-is-a-hybrid-bullet-train-of-a-semi/

So where did he get his info from? An OEM vendor?

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Squint and you can see the RT.

50K seems optimistic to me.

The rear wheels have a narrower track than the front. Great for efficiency, horrible for performance. FSD protections will keep this vehicle from operating beyond its safe envelope. Cannot see how a consumer version of this car is competitive. It may be a smarter move to design a consumer car...

Yeah, GM has its issues. Sometimes shrinking one's operations to profitable markets work.......................till it doesn't. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/06/us-automakers-like-gm-rapidly-lose-ground-in-china.html

Isn't Dojo or a super computer of some type going into that extension?

Now we will see how Tesla competes in the market as a mainstream player just like everyone else. Can it compete over the long haul? Uber revolutionized the taxi business. But guess what, the majority still drive their personal cars, and young people still aspire to own one.

Thank you thank you thank you.

You live in the ATL, home of the world's busiest airport (in passengers and ops) and you choose not to fly. One less person in the Centurion Lounge.

Non Union plants can breathe a little easier............ https://www.autoblog.com/2024/05/17/uaw-loses-union-vote-mercedes-benz-factory-alabama/

The vast majority of Tesla owners. Nor do they know of any "mission." They just think the product is awesome!

Wait!!!! Other automakers are laying off workers in China too? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/honda-moves-cut-china-workforce-202508420.html

Man look at Nvidia, keep thinking that bubble will bust. Maybe Tesla needs to rename FSD............AI. 😆

Built in China, should be done in 6 months.

News from China, a poster earlier in the day referenced parts from Model Y refresh.

It shows the total history of production and is not a representation of the present day.

How much is this chalked up to Fremont being an old site compared to the newer Giga Factories? IMO, Fremont has outlived its usefulness.

This thread mimics the mood surrounding Tesla. When the stock was rising like a Falcon 9 rocket this was place was party. Now a little adversity and uncertainty and some posters want to quit. Then quit. Or Follow the example of the remaining Tesla workers and engineers who do their jobs...

Happens all the time at automakers. Remember the 2010 RWD Acura RL and NSX with the V-10? Oh, you did not know it was canceled after the all the R&D work was done. GM, BMW, and Mercedes just canceled vehicles that was far along in the development. Unless you are car guy and read automotive news...

I think we put too much emphasis on how the Model 2 will be built. A lower-priced product built on lines already amortized is a smart move. Especially if the 48V architecture moves to the best-selling car, that drops costs significantly, and not just the RT, and CT.

Thank you, spot on. I failed miserably across four posts trying to convey the same point.

The danger is if Tesla sells the SC then it becomes like every other automaker. Unless the rumors are true Tesla is pivoting to a RT and energy storage company. Shanghai, Austin, Fremont and Berlin may be on the block in a decade.

True, but how much variation is there for cars bound for the Chinese market compared to ROW. The new M3 Performance has 19-inch wheels for the China and others vs 20 inches for ROW. So again, why the separate design team?

The point of having a design center in China and California never made sense to me. Even if Tesla product line expanded to from 5 to 10 vehicles, does it really necessitate two separate design teams? Engineering yes, design, no.

Most likely referring to engineerirng.

Test routing? Have the RT get on 130 north out of the factory speed up to the posted 85 mph, and not get run over, see if AI is smart enough not to sit in the far left lane. Take the 290 exit west toward Austin (by the way make sure the RT has a toll tag). Take the I-35 South exit to downtown...

I am curious which teams are working 80 hours a week. My guess, the FSD and Model 2.5 teams.

Where else are they going to go to discuss Tesla's financial news in technical detail? Reddit? Facebook? 😆 😆 😆 😆 Q2 numbers, RT 8/8 and Model 2.5 debuts...............They will be back and the trolls will retreat. Trolls abhor positive news and a positive environment.

Just reduce by 15-20%, or imagine a smaller Y. We will find out soon in a couple of months.

This is related to the stock price since it is a rendering of the Model 2.5 product that will fill out the production capacity of Shanghai, Berlin, and Austin. If it looked like this. Can't wait to see what Lars and Franz are cooking up...

News of Model 2.5 being a variant.............Hmmm https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-2-appears-in-fresh-unofficial-renderings-tesla-cybersport-also-in-tow-233150.html#agal_0

Sometimes the grass is redder on the other side. https://www.investors.com/news/rivian-stock-quarterly-loss-on-horizon-apple-partnership-rumors/

My interest is what repetitive jobs will these robots be doing in the factories. Hopefully an increase in quality and efficiency at the same time.

This is nothing new, the AI bubble will burst and the flow of power swing the other way. The "power" we are talking about is salary. In either case, as other articles have stated, QOL is out the window during this AI frenzy, be it at Tesla, a startup, or elsewhere.

1. The mood of this forum is based on how the stock is doing. When Elon went to China and surprised everyone with the good news, the stock went up 10 points in a day and the mood here was reminiscent of the pre-Covid days. Then SC team layoffs came with no context and the stock went down again...

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