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I'm not saying they are broadly unsafe, but I am saying that Tesla has a problem with quality, and I for one don't trust them because they also have a problem with honesty. OP's wife seems to not really be in the trusting camp, either, and with good reason, IMO. People act like Tesla gives a...

Some of you are too far gone.

It's a known problem with these cars. The simple answer is probably the correct one: tesla quality sucks and they did a bad job. @OP: listen to your wife. She's the logical one. Don't reward this company by buying another car from them when they've proven they don't deserve your trust...

Yeah, everyone should train themselves to reflexively accelerate when the car wants to brake. I cannot think of any way that could possibly go wrong. Or, wild thought, tesla could try eating a slice of humble pie, admitting they're wrong, and work to fix these issues before going back to the...

$1100 in the sf bay area a few months ago, at service center

The way I ended up fixing this was disconnecting the HV battery, the 12v battery, and letting it sit overnight.

What's next? Not refunds, unfortunately.

How'd this end up? Having the same issue.

I'd rather stop and charge in a comfortable, quiet car than go straight through in one that I'm not comfortable in. That said, the e-tron you drove would be the fat one, which is shorter range but even nicer inside. This one should be good for over 200mi real-world range.

Oh god, no, not the E-tron GT. I'm not in that income bracket. I mean the Q4, the Model Y competitor! Anyway, the e-tron models seem to have a nice sane service expectation: Check the brakes, cabin air filters, wiper blades, etc. No superfluous nonsense.

Nope. Finally switching to the crossover/SUV world, begrudgingly. The limitations of having a trunk are finally catching up with me, and nobody makes a cool wagon that I can afford (Porsche, if you want to make a charitable contribution to me, I'm ok with this…) That said, I'm not going...

Maybe if Tesla would actually listen to human factors experts from time to time, they wouldn't have done dumb crap like using wheel torque sensors to determine hand presence, among other things. Now one will have a say in what they do, even if they don't like it. Stupid games played, stupid...

Almost as much as is wasted by lawyers ruining everything. 🙃

Safety score only matters for peasants. https://electrek.co/2021/10/14/tesla-pushes-full-self-driving-beta-investor-without-perfect-safety-score/

https://electrek.co/2021/10/14/tesla-pushes-full-self-driving-beta-investor-without-perfect-safety-score/ All that hard work to get your 100s or 99s, and someone with a known-terrible score still gets the beta ahead of you people who played by the rules. Trash company does trashy things...

If hitting a curb isn't on accident, that must mean it's on purpose.

NO. Do not let them off that easily. They didn't forget. They TOOK DOWN THE POST and pretended they never said any of it. There is a wide gulf between negligence and dishonesty, and while Tesla has had their share of both, this falls under the latter umbrella.

You mean, uh, like I did in the post directly preceding that?

Maybe so, but the joy of a joke is that it doesn't have to be accurate. Until he admits they were wrong to take money for *checks calendar* 4 years and 11 months without giving a single significant feature, and does something about it, I genuinely don't care about anything he says ever again.

No, the guy you asked was doing his job ;) Unlike Elon, I'm fully capable of admitting when I'm wrong.

I fully admit my info was outdated, I didn't realize how severely youtube has cut payouts since my content creation days. I still don't like Tesla playing favorites but I'm less offended by it now.

…while making nontrivial amounts of money for the people posting the videos. It's cronyism.

Or better yet, people in order of FSD purchase date.

Oh they're still adding new youtubers and leg humpers to the beta? There's a shock.

They could be for all we know.

Another underwhelming, overhyped release. How surprising.

Believing that is your prerogative. Elon has completely obliterated any chance of me trusting him on anything ever again.

straight from the factory, no modifications! 😂 😒

Those who don't learn from history...

I KNEW IT.

Don't mind him. He's one of those folks who simply refuses to believe that customers and/or shareholders might be unhappy with the product or the way the company acts.

If you say you're going to bring pizza over on Tuesday, and then you don't, and then say you're going to bring it over on Saturday, you don't get points for being on time.

What about sixty nines?

https://electrek.co/2021/08/31/tesla-survey-take-rate-full-self-driving-package/ Higher than I would have expected TBH

It's amazing he makes so few typos with Elon's lower stomach covering his eyes at all times.

The joys of soft plastic seats.

I don't think this is a zebra getting rid of his stripes. I think this is leatherface putting on a new victim's face for a while.

if he acquired the car in June 2019, by that point I believe they were saying in writing that auto steer on city streets would be delivered by end of year.

Their handling of early FSD purchasers has ensured my next car will not be a Tesla. I'd say that's not good for the brand. I wouldn't have bought the car without autopilot though. No car without TACC and lane centering is worth owning as far as I'm concerned.

Tesla being extraordinarily reductive and thinking they've got a problem solved before they've even really started? There's no precedent for such a thing!

He did you a favor. Trim and model badges are stupid.

Mine will be called nil, just like the chance they'll actually deliver on their claims, or that I'd be dumb enough to fall for their BS again.

"We couldn't deliver on the original promise that we sold you, please take this other promise that we will never deliver on as compensation" Sounds like Elon's way of doing things, all right.

Checks out: I predict the near future of Tesla better than Elon, apparently.

More because Elon's a lying pusbag who's been getting away with it for way too long and isn't going to stop unless it hurts too much to keep doing it.

I should probably have had a sarcasm tag there. Was definitely in jest.

Hoping they get whacked and that it hurts bad. They've misled and outright lied to customers. Time to reap the consequences.

With how bad the seats in the Bolt are, I could never in good conscience recommend one.

gonna be a long wait.

Well, distracting me with alerts in the screen because their system is stupid isn't gonna help me pay attention to the road.