2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N

“The Ioniq 5 N will produce 601 horsepower and 545 pound-feet of torque—and it has something called N Grin Boost that raises output to 641 hp.“

MSRP should be around $63k.

Anyone else pumped about this performance EV? I haven’t seen any other EV compelling enough to make me want to upgrade from my 2019 M3P at a close price point. Based on the numbers, it should be a high 10 second car on the 1/4 mile given Kia EV6 GT owners are hitting low 11s with 70 less hp.

It will have a 84-kwh battery.

Comes with forged wheels, big brakes, and racing seats from the factory.

It also makes artificial noises
“The Ioniq 5 N's "N Active Sound+" feature uses 10 interior speakers and two exterior ones to simulate the rumble of a gas engine and exhaust both inside and outside the vehicle. There are a few different sound profiles available, including a "Supersonic" theme that Hyundai said was inspired by fighter jets.”

Here’s to hoping Elon ups the ante with a Plaid Model 3 or at least a more powerful M3P or else I may be switching over to Hyundai in the next few years.

 

[Clark_Kent]

The IONIQ 5 N is incredibly intriguing to me. I'm following this one closely and may pull the trigger on this to replace my MYP.

 

[Unobtanium]

The IONIQ 5 N is incredibly intriguing to me. I'm following this one closely and may pull the trigger on this to replace my MYP.

My only issue with it is the low profile tires. I always buy CNA extended coverage on my cars, and WILDLY! the one thing they will void you for is putting non-OEM rims on a car, which would be necessary to run a 40-45 series tire like I'd prefer for my uses. I have seen some 0-60's and 1/4 mile runs now on Dragy from the N, and it's about 0.2 seconds quicker 0-60 than my EV6 GT, and runs the quarter about 2-3mph faster and 0.2-0.3 quicker. Oddly the 60' times are identical, even given the wider rubber. I think it's quicker "up top". The big question mark is the real world range...will the different pack offer more, or did that get soaked up by tires and motors?

 

[Clark_Kent]

My only issue with it is the low profile tires. I always buy CNA extended coverage on my cars, and WILDLY! the one thing they will void you for is putting non-OEM rims on a car, which would be necessary to run a 40-45 series tire like I'd prefer for my uses. I have seen some 0-60's and 1/4 mile runs now on Dragy from the N, and it's about 0.2 seconds quicker 0-60 than my EV6 GT, and runs the quarter about 2-3mph faster and 0.2-0.3 quicker. Oddly the 60' times are identical, even given the wider rubber. I think it's quicker "up top". The big question mark is the real world range...will the different pack offer more, or did that get soaked up by tires and motors?

The range is an open question for me. I'm eager to understand what it's rated at and the real world figures. Should know more about when they'll start showing up in the coming weeks. Preas release states March, but I'm not so sure.

 

[cptnslo]

5N is no joke, that thing is a beast. I'm glad we have more competition in the performance EV space.

Here’s this also.

 

[Yelobird]

Here’s this also. View attachment 1040297

Yet reviews say 200 mile range estimate. Pass.

 

[momo3605]

Yet reviews say 200 mile range estimate. Pass.

Here’s this also. View attachment 1040297

Again, this will probably do 220 or 230 real world, even though the model 3 performance claims 290, we all know the real world highway efficiency is closer to 240 or 250. So really not that different

 

[Unobtanium]

Again, this will probably do 220 or 230 real world, even though the model 3 performance claims 290, we all know the real world highway efficiency is closer to 240 or 250. So really not that different

Real world people are getting the same as the ev6 gt. 240-270mi. Obviously not hooning around.

75mph highway C&D test got them both at 190mi

 

[OCR1]

I had a chance to drive a Hyundai Ioniq 5N today at the Electrify Expo convention in Long Beach, CA. The rep who sat with me for the drive was a professional race car driver who works with Hyundai and Porsche to design their racing vehicles. He spent quite a bit of time talking about all of the great features of the car and asked me what I was comparing it to. I told him I was considering a Model 3 Performance.

So he asked me why I wanted the M3P instead of the Ioniq. I told him that it cost $20K less, has faster acceleration, and 80 more miles of range. It also has a superior implementation of FSD and a more reliable supercharging network.

His response was, well if those are the only things you care about, you should buy the Tesla.

I’m still scratching my head on that one. Is there something else I’m supposed to care about? I mean I wasn’t about to tell him the Ioniq is just plain ugly.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

I had a chance to drive a Hyundai Ioniq 5N today at the Electrify Expo convention in Long Beach, CA. The rep who sat with me for the drive was a professional race car driver who works with Hyundai and Porsche to design their racing vehicles. He spent quite a bit of time talking about all of the great features of the car and asked me what I was comparing it to. I told him I was considering a Model 3 Performance.

So he asked me why I wanted the M3P instead of the Ioniq. I told him that it cost $20K less, has faster acceleration, and 80 more miles of range. It also has a superior implementation of FSD and a more reliable supercharging network.

His response was, well if those are the only things you care about, you should buy the Tesla.

I’m still scratching my head on that one. Is there something else I’m supposed to care about? I mean I wasn’t about to tell him the Ioniq is just plain ugly.

He probably has no clue how quick this new Model 3 Performance really is. If he tried the Tesla he would probably quit trying to pitch the Hyundai cars.

The Ioniq 5N is a fine car but the price is just absurd when compared to the new Model 3 Performance.

 

[Jangy]

He probably has no clue how quick this new Model 3 Performance really is. If he tried the Tesla he would probably quit trying to pitch the Hyundai cars.

The Ioniq 5N is a fine car but the price is just absurd when compared to the new Model 3 Performance.

He pitches what he gets paid to pitch. The two cars are completely different in many ways.

 

[ashegam]

His response was, well if those are the only things you care about...

Is there something else I’m supposed to care about?

You should have said " You know, now that you mention it, I really like the the fake sounds, fake gear changes, and numerous fake gauges. It reminds me of my GF who has fake tits, fake eyelashes, lip fillers, Botox injections, fake nails etc. In other words I love anything fake that tries to mimic something real, sort of like this 5N."

 

[12B4A]

You should have said " You know, now that you mention it, I really like the the fake sounds, fake gear changes, and numerous fake gauges. It reminds me of my GF who has fake tits, fake eyelashes, lip fillers, Botox injections, fake nails etc. In other words I love anything fake that tries to mimic something real, sort of like this 5N."

"Ioniq 5N - The glam porn EV"

 

[tone228]

I had a chance to drive a Hyundai Ioniq 5N today at the Electrify Expo convention in Long Beach, CA. The rep who sat with me for the drive was a professional race car driver who works with Hyundai and Porsche to design their racing vehicles. He spent quite a bit of time talking about all of the great features of the car and asked me what I was comparing it to. I told him I was considering a Model 3 Performance.

So he asked me why I wanted the M3P instead of the Ioniq. I told him that it cost $20K less, has faster acceleration, and 80 more miles of range. It also has a superior implementation of FSD and a more reliable supercharging network.

His response was, well if those are the only things you care about, you should buy the Tesla.

I’m still scratching my head on that one. Is there something else I’m supposed to care about? I mean I wasn’t about to tell him the Ioniq is just plain ugly.

I think the Hyundai rep's point was that the Ioniq 5 N is a different type of car than the M3P. The N is more of a driver's car than the Tesla, it's more engaging and arguably more fun. Ioniq 5 N is also probably better on track than the M3P.

 

[adaminfl]

I had a chance to drive a Hyundai Ioniq 5N today at the Electrify Expo convention in Long Beach, CA. The rep who sat with me for the drive was a professional race car driver who works with Hyundai and Porsche to design their racing vehicles. He spent quite a bit of time talking about all of the great features of the car and asked me what I was comparing it to. I told him I was considering a Model 3 Performance.

So he asked me why I wanted the M3P instead of the Ioniq. I told him that it cost $20K less, has faster acceleration, and 80 more miles of range. It also has a superior implementation of FSD and a more reliable supercharging network.

His response was, well if those are the only things you care about, you should buy the Tesla.

I’m still scratching my head on that one. Is there something else I’m supposed to care about? I mean I wasn’t about to tell him the Ioniq is just plain ugly.

It's also ugly as all hell

 

[OCR1]

That's literally all completely anecdotal. The new M3P is the first "track focused" 3 that we've ever gotten and it's barely in the hands of anyone lol.

The race track aspect of the 5N was the main point the rep was trying to make. My question is what is the market for a $66K Hyundai with 220 miles of range that is targeted more for the race track than for everyday driving? I just don’t see there being a lot of demand for it. The M3P gives you a car that can be taken to the race track but also can be used as a daily driver with great range at an affordable price.

 

[tone228]

That's literally all completely anecdotal. The new M3P is the first "track focused" 3 that we've ever gotten and it's barely in the hands of anyone lol.

That’s yet to be determined! We shall see!

What would make it better on the track? There are reviews saying they think the new M3P is displacing the BMW M3 competition, what is the 5n going to offer over that?

The MP3 is mostly the same as last year with slight changes; more power, adaptive suspension, the new seats and wheels and tires are really the only differences. I'm not saying the M3P is a bad car or the Hyundai is better, but the fact is the 5 N is more track focused and has features to get you more driving engagement compared to the Model 3.
The 5 N has hardware and software that the M3P does not have. The. 5N has a dedicated launch mode, a more comprehensive drift mode, it has a simulated clutch kick to get the rear end out, a mechanical E-LSD, a system that calculates the battery's state of charge per lap on track, an endurance mode for track days and a sprint mode to give one fast lap. Like it or not the simulated gearshifts and fake engine sounds are there and provide some stimulation, many a jaded automotive journalists have said it actually does add to the experience of driving. There are buttons on the steering wheel to provide quick access to track modes and shift paddles, different gauge setups.
The low 220 mile range is proof that it is a more focused car. Yes it's more expensive but you get more for your money. Yes it's heavier but you get 641 horsepower which makes acceleration a wash between the two cars, and the Ioniq 5 N is actually considered an SUV with a hatch so more useable space.
None of this makes the M3P a bad car, I have a reservation for one. I think the small changes to the M3P make it a compelling proposition, especially for under $50k. I think it offers more value than the 5 N, also the range and the supposedly more comfortable ride makes the M3P a better commuter which matters to me.

 

[tone228]

I think your points are valid. BUT I would like to see both on a track in timed trials. Maybe Randy Probst. I think the M3P will beat the 5N's time as I don't see the M3P having any trouble beating a 5000 pound SUV, track focused or not.

Yeah I am curious also and we should be seeing more info soon. Hyundai is actually taking the 5 N to Pikes Peak and they're making a YouTube series about it. No Randy Post though.

 

[tone228]

None of the things you mention will make the 5N quicker than the new Model 3 Performance for anything. The extra 800 lbs the 5N carries around are its Achilles heal. For a 4,850 lb vehicle it does quite well but it is no match for a 4,050 lb vehicle like the new Model 3 Performance.

I am just going to say it. The gear shift simulations on the 5N are stupid. They slow the car down and the reviews demonstrated that. A car is engaging when it is winning at the track. Those gear shifts won't help you win. They will help you lose.

I honestly have to laugh at people paying $67K+ for fake gear shifts and piped in fart can noises in an EV. If that makes them happy then it is their money to spend as they please. However, I am going to make fun of them as I beat them in the quicker and less expensive Model 3 Performance.

I never said the 5 N will be faster around a track, I gave the reasons why the 5 N is more track focused and engaging.
To each their own, buy what you want, but just because you like something doesn't mean it's better.

 

[tone228]

It is slower in everything and what you are calling engaging is just simply slowing the car down for no good reason at all.

There are not any instrumented tests for acceleration yet for the new M3P so I'm not sure how you're saying the 5 N "is slower in everything", and even if the Tesla has an edge in acceleration it will be minuscule at best. The 5 N has recorded 3 seconds to 60 mph, under 7 seconds to 100 mph and a 1/4 of 11.1 @ 123 mph. Those are just the straight line numbers, we have no idea if they will be close around a track.
The simulated gear shifts and sounds can be turned off so it isn't hurting the performance of the car. It's there to give the car character and make it more fun to drive. It's adding to the experience of driving

 

[tone228]

The

Hyundai is hideous. Your post reminds me of the scene in Monty Python Life of Brian where they’re debating what the Romans have ever done.

The New M3P is mostly the same as last year

Except for the improved rear motor that will give it more than good 0-60, but aside from that it’s mostly the same

Except for the lighter forged wheels with less unsprung mass that will make it quicker and more responsive in corners, but aside from that it’s mostly the same.

Except for a much needed and impressive adaptive suspension that will greatly help it perform both on a track as well as a daily, but aside from that it’s mostly the same

Oh and the re-design with aero vents to help cool brakes, an improved front that will help create more downforce, an upgraded rear spoiler and diffuser that also help aero, but aside from that it’s mostly the same

And ventilated sport seats, that will provide more support and lateral stability with side bolsters to facilitate more spirited driving, but aside from that it’s mostly the same

I got my M3P for $45k as well which IIRC is $20k less

Sounds like you agree with me, you just repeated everything I said. Like it or not, the fact is the '24 M3P is a moderate refresh and not all new. All good changes and a step in the right direction but nothing is groundbreaking. This all stuff the Performance version should have had from when it was first released and most performance cars have had since the mid 2010's. Tesla themselves have even admitted the original M3P was half baked.
Styling is subjective, you may think the Ioniq 5 is hideous but someone else may think it's cool and different. The Model 3 isn't exactly the most exciting looking car on the road.